The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Lachlan James — Wed, 26 May 2004 01:21:00 GMT

Does this mean we have to wait 2 or more years again? I think OS should be released with .NET 2.0 regardless of whether it is going to be mreged with winFS.

And if we do have to wait, I would hope that OS has more features built in like support for more database vendors.

Lachlan

RE: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Scott Watermasysk — Wed, 26 May 2004 03:30:00 GMT

I still vote for a community drop (http://scottwater.com/blog/archive/2004/05/23/11966.aspx).

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Michael Teper — Wed, 26 May 2004 05:11:00 GMT

+1 on community drop.

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Wolfgang — Wed, 26 May 2004 06:51:00 GMT

+1 for a v1 release with .NET 2.0. You guys need to get this right the first time. Take the opportunity to learn what you are doing wrong by releasing it now, not when Longhorn depends on it. If MSFT can't spare the resources for this, I'd go with a community drop and resulting OS application block as Scott suggests...

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Frans Bouma — Wed, 26 May 2004 08:46:00 GMT

As a community drop would be equal to an open source system, support wise and money wise, why are you, the people who want objectspaces to be a community release, not using these open source tools? There are a couple, some have more features than Objectspaces in its current state.

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Daniel Pratt — Wed, 26 May 2004 13:25:00 GMT

+1 for release with .NET 2.0 or soon after. Frans, I've looked at several open-source O/R mappers, and I still feel that OS is better *for me*. Although I know it's not in your best interest to promote other O/R mappers, I'd be interested to know which one you would choose given my criteria:

- No base class requirement
- OPath or similar query language
- GUI mapper
- Doesn't try to do everything. I'd prefer to manage transactions, security, etc. with COM+
- Free

Of course, if you don't think any of the above are valid, I'd be interested to know that, too.

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Kevin Dente — Wed, 26 May 2004 15:09:00 GMT

I vote for the WSE/Indigo model. Get it into people's hands, unbundled from the core 2.0 framework and with a limited support lifetime.

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Scott Witter — Wed, 26 May 2004 15:17:00 GMT

+1 vote for a community drop
+1 for Kevin suggestion

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Jason S. — Wed, 26 May 2004 15:31:00 GMT

+1 for Community Drop

Andrew: This took courage, thanks for caring about the community opinion.

Frans, I almost went with your mapper. It's an excellent piece of software at a great price. I went with a codebase that was very similiar to OS syntax (WORM). One, it was near free, two it didn't require an inheritance model and three it paralleled thinking from Redmond. I'm not sure about #3 now but at the time it held weight with the team.

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Dave Goldstein — Wed, 26 May 2004 19:25:00 GMT

After just convincing my client to adopt OS for our project, with a release 1H next year, I'm really wanting to fall off the face of the earth now...
...not to mention, nobody ever gets these things 100% right out the door, nobody.

+1 on community release...
...and Kevin's suggestion is fair.

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Kevin Daly — Wed, 26 May 2004 20:43:00 GMT

+1 on community release.

I hate to be so "me too" but I find myself agreeing with an uncharacteristically large number of people...

ObjectSpaces... not till Longhorn

Bryant Likes's Blog — Thu, 27 May 2004 00:25:00 GMT

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Mark Woods — Tue, 01 Jun 2004 03:21:00 GMT

+1.0 on community release...

re: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Mark Woods — Tue, 01 Jun 2004 03:25:00 GMT

actually, since there are 3 versions of the same concept going thru MS(OS, MBF, WinFS, right?), just bundle em so we can bang on the one that fits our needs.

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