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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Testing and Quality</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/alanpa/archive/2008/04/10/testing-and-quality.aspx</link><description>I’ve been thinking about testing and quality again lately. Across the industry, testers call themselves “quality assurance”, or “quality engineers”, and testers say they “measure quality”. I’ve had serious thoughts recently whether the two terms (“quality”</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP1 (Build: 61025.2)</generator><item><title>re: Testing and Quality</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/alanpa/archive/2008/04/10/testing-and-quality.aspx#8391287</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:43:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8391287</guid><dc:creator>Shrini</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Alan,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have difficulties in understanding various manifestations of quality as you have articulated here ....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Product Quality - Intrensic to the product&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Engineering Quality - Quality of all (engineering) processes that produce the product&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Customer Quality - Eventually what customer cares about (will he buy it? will he recommend it?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Except customer quality (which is a time-bound relationship between the user and the product), other two forms of quality appear to indicate that &amp;quot;quality is part or an attribute&amp;quot; of &amp;quot;process&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;product&amp;quot;...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just left a comment to your previous post quoting Michael Bolton that ... &amp;quot;quality is a relationship (1-1) but not an attribute of a thing ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What do you say?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shrini&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: Testing and Quality</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/alanpa/archive/2008/04/10/testing-and-quality.aspx#8396252</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:19:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8396252</guid><dc:creator>alanpa</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Let me put it differently.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm saying there are two kinds of quality: Engineering quality, and &amp;quot;Experience&amp;quot; quality. Engineering quality is a measure of how the product was built - Experience quality is what the customer sees.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don't think engineering quality is process quality - i.e. I dont care how the process works, but I do care about the measurements. For example, I suppose there's a process to code coverage, but what I care about is the data.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Quality and the Experience</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/alanpa/archive/2008/04/10/testing-and-quality.aspx#8587885</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:48:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8587885</guid><dc:creator>notes and rants</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm beating a dead horse here (or at least beating an old post ), but I have a story to share about quality&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Tester vs QA</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/alanpa/archive/2008/04/10/testing-and-quality.aspx#8591049</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:50:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8591049</guid><dc:creator>Eric Hu's Weblog</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;上一篇談 Tester 的職責是什麼, 這一篇談另一個觀念, Tester 不應該被叫做 QA (quality assurance), 因為基本上, Tester 沒辦法真的確保 &amp;quot;Quality&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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