Content ownership, fair use and attribution

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Brant Gurganus — Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:23:00 GMT

So long as there is a hyperlink back to the original content, I see no problem with such services. I am, however, biased against companies that make usability decisions based on money instead of actual usability. Even when you consider the money alternative, this type of site forces those who do care about money to provide a mobile-accessible alternative to their standard site if they wish to remain in business.

From his presentation at my college, Ted Nelson showed a vision of hypertext in which microcontent could be freely copied back and forth between sites and their relationships kept intact. The current Web model does not show such relationships to the best extent, but there is room for such improvement.

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Daniel Moth — Mon, 03 Jan 2005 02:59:00 GMT

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re: Content ownership, fair use and attribution

Alex Barnett — Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:20:00 GMT

Interesting post regarding copyright:

'Copyright myths and creative common(s) sense', http://nevon.typepad.com/nevon/2004/12/copyright_myths.html

re: Content ownership, fair use and attribution

Jim Elve — Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:20:00 GMT

Over the past few days, Skweezer has scrambled to post their terms and an easier method for site owners to opt out of having their content displayed on Skweezer. Too little, too late? Time will tell.

What I found extremely interesting was Skweezer's Terms of Service - particularly #9.

From http://www.skweezer.net/help/?agreement :
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Intellectual Property. This Web site, including, without limitation, all information available through this site, the content, graphics, images, audio and layout of this site is the property of GWC and is protected by copyright and other intellectual property laws of the U.S. and other countries.

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"including, without limitation, all information available through this site, the content, graphics, images..." ????

Now, they are claiming that they own all of the content they display. How can that possibly be ethical?

As a further indication of the way Skweezer operates, Scott Watermaysk and the other dotText developers might like to note that the Sweezer blog is a dotText blog but they didn't even bother to give any credit to the selfless guys who made it freely available to them.

Like my own dasBlog-based site, the "CSSed" dotText pages should display quite nicely in most small screen devices. Indeed, readers do not need Skweezer for most blogs. Blogging software and online blog tools are mostly doing a good job of making content cross-browser/platform compatible.

As to the fact that they provide one direct link back to the site, notice that the link is simply named "URL" and it is the very last thing on the Skweezer page.

re: Content ownership, fair use and attribution

Dug Falby — Wed, 05 Jan 2005 00:49:00 GMT

I reckon once content is available online it should be treated as largely in the public domain.

It's no sin to chase audience and ad revenue by repurposing other people's content, but generally, readers want a relationship with a site, and these are best provided by active independent publishers who keep it fresh by keeping it coming.

I think Barnabas Kendall's "Why Skweezer is good for Content Publishers" is a bit ingenuous in places. In any case, he puts his finger on the real issue:

> After all, certain sites (Bloglines for example)
> detect and offer alternative content to mobile
> browsers. In a perfect Internet, this would
> obviate Skweezer entirely.

As handsets improve (and they are--quickly) and websites become more semantic and more media neutral (and I think the rush is now offically on) services like Squeezer will become obsolete. I think we're looking at a couple of years, so not really anything to get your knickers in a twist about.

Besides, I've not yet found an aggregated or repurposed site that I favoured over its original. Or, in other words, while it's no sin, repurposing probably isn't the best way to build an audience.

Finally, I won't say Jim Elve is a psycho, but he's not so much way off the mark as missing the point entirely. For now, Skweezer is a proxy service. Period. Same as websitegarage and the modem proxy you get with your copy of Analog. As a hosted service that isn't a registered charity, of course they whack some ads at the bottom of the page.

I think this exposes a sidecar issue: Google adsense will be rubish until it adopts standards. Google, read my lips, The IFRAME tag is NOT STANDARD it is a deprecated MSIE extension *grrr*

If Google let us store the adwords in page memory so they could easily be manipulated, Jim's ads would still be on his page.

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