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Zeta Blocker — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:36:00 GMT

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/11/hakon_on_ms_interroperability/

Please respond.

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A Question — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:55:00 GMT

What proportion of the visitors to your blog use IE?

How has this proportion changed over the last year or so?

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Samboy LIms — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:50:00 GMT

Zeta, Well Hakon is very well living up to his name. He is an absolute 'Lie'.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:19:00 GMT

You are absolutely right, the fact that I no longer use MS Office or IE or Outlook means NOTHING to the business interests of Microsoft. Nothing at all. The fact that I am now no longer licensing MS Office and other software means NOTHING. Nothing at all. Lets not let the reality of the situation get in the way, maybe you should take off those rose tinted spectacles you are issued with.

Open office is mature and usable more than enough for rollout in the enterprise, same for Thunderbird. They are easier to manage also in the enterprise because they dont stomp about the file systems hidey holes and registry.

You think I stand alone? Look around.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:25:00 GMT

MSN? We use Jabber in our enterprise.

Office? We use OpenOffice 1.9

CRM? Exchange? Look around. There are other capable systems without the Licensing hassles that Microsoft throw in our path.

The only way Office gets on a CONSUMER desktop is via the OEM licences preinstalled or packaged in shelf bundles, students and consumers are shopping around and FREE is always a great deal.

Forget spouting on about Groupware and pfft Staroffice being shitty and Office is da biz with change tracking and so on, consumers dont need this stuff, enterprises can use open office very well thank you.

Excel? Check out Calc.

Acrobat? Open office writer even exports to PDF, free viewer downloadable and same for powerpoint, free viewer and openoffice has Impress. Its a very very capable office suite.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:47:00 GMT

Joined in Microsoft in October of 2002

Well, ive been there longer than you and yes Microsoft has issues and Office is gona lose to openoffice on the non OEM bundled consumers and its losing on the enterprises for office. Exchange and CRM are the next targets.

Start wearing reality glasses dude and dump those rose tints. You are whats holding back microsoft with your unreality vision TM :D Take your head from yer anus and look around at whats out there and what you are facing. If you dont run those other applications on your machines or even use them you are blind and it will come up and bite you in the ass bad.

That ignorance can be costly to you. Im an SDE incase you are wondering.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:50:00 GMT

MSN, voice codecs even using CLEP codecs skype is much clearer for full duplex conversations not to mention its over SSL.

MSN beta is SHITE extreme its RINGTONES and WALLPAPERs bubble buttons that people dont want. Its a hinderance of glitterballs and flares and you expect people to pay for that and yet take MS seriously in the IM market? Laughable. If we want glitterballs and flares we run AOL not MS.

This is what happens when we recruit PMs that are all IMAGE IMAGE IMAGE and less WORK WORK WORK. Hows that messy spikey hair dude :D Still rushing out for Fiber to fix it before that next meeting?

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:57:00 GMT

Search engines, really, now I use Copernic search client to pool the results and summaries. You think all those adverts on MSN are improving my productivity? Nope. Its all Disco balls and flares. Copernic cuts through all that for me, same for using the Search bar feature of Firefox. Just the results.

Im not going to waffle on about Linux taking over the desktop, its nowhere near that, we all know that but where it is biting into Microsoft's business is the applications like Office, once Exchange gets some good competition out there then its really going to bite. Still want to be on the Office BU? :D You think 3Degrees was a great hit? Maybe with pre teens but thats not really a big money spinner is it now unless you are into the PAYG mobile market for ringtones and SMS.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:03:00 GMT

Virtual PC, we all know VMWare is king in this domain, no excuse not to use VMWare. Price? Well we all know alot of users download it. Price isnt an issue. Reality dude. VPC is for mac users. Let them have it :)

Im even running ESX on my laptop as a VM base to ease managability of my platforms. ESX true VM host with windows as my guest OS, easy to backup, just copy that guest install. Easy to restore too, and move about. No driver issues either for Linux on ESX host. Performance? Not an issue, I run a 64bit 2gb laptop, runs fine, wait until I go duel core 64bit it can only get better. VPC is a TOY in this domain.

Lets move onto handhelds, sure Pocket PC is a win here and rightly so, the embedded market is going to be big for MS but its got alot of competition also. Visual studio, well no other IDE is close to that right now, we all know that but theres always hope.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:07:00 GMT

Hotmail, well I no longer use Hotmail, to get mail from Hotmail is like shoving ones fist up a donkeys arse to get it, no SMTP no POP no IMAP, SPAM, adverts , cluttered UI , breaks with non IE browsers, low storage quotas. Why bother?

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:08:00 GMT

The only reason people use hotmail is because they dont know any different when they sign up to MSN Messenger, they think Hotmail is REQUIRED to get MSN Messenger. Very missleading.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:12:00 GMT

When is MS killing off MS Access, FoxPro and concentrating on SQL Server and its lesser versions for small businesses? Why the diffusion on different products that do the same thing? This is why we have SKUs for market seqmentation. Dump Access, FoxPro and concentrate on a single product line.

Who did get the blame for Windows ME anyhow?

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AT — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:12:00 GMT

There are at most 6000 blog entries at Technorati related to MSN Search launch.
All others are much older.
http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?rank=&url=msn+search&start=6000

Also - I feel that you need to reduce number at least to 1/3 or your original values too.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:13:00 GMT

Why is Longhorn copying the Quicktime UI? Its fagoty? What tard in a suit dreamt that up on a low caffine day?

Microsoft advocates, the cult is dead

Eric — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:37:00 GMT

One thing that I have noticed recently

is that the only Microsoft advocates you find nowdays

ARE PAID to be Microsoft advocates.

Contrast this to the early days of Microsoft.
In those early days Microsoft was a cult.
Microsoft was the liberation from the expensive (mainframe) computer.

Microsoft has now become that expensive computer.
The cult is now Linux.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:53:00 GMT

It is amazing how many illiterate morons there are in the world! Of course Microsoft is as dominant as ever, and getting more so. Sales of Microsoft server products were up 18% year over year last quarter. The end is near, losers!

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:43:00 GMT

MS wont lose on the platforms, they will lose on alot of the applications on those platforms.

The will win on embedded and platforms, they will take a hit on office but it will take a while. What open office needs to do is a Firefox type drive, I now promote openoffice to those that want "copies" of office or word. I say its free, does everything that "consumer" will ever need from a suite. Those people didnt make microsoft money anyway, Microsoft only makes money from enterprises and OEMs on office, not consumers, those people get it from "buddies", well I am one now that no longer keeps office "handy" for those people, I suggest open office 1.9 now. Its good for them..

Examples of good open source projects.

OpenOffice 1.9
7Zip
Firefox
Thunderbird

Thats just for "consumers" and home "offices" and small businesses

They are targeting CRM and Exchange now as they know this is where they need to be to take on the enterprises.

OpenCRX for an open CRM solution http://www.opencrx.com

OpenGroupWare http://www.opengroupware.org/

Who says the open source community hasnt got theyre heads screwed on?

This is where its gona take on microsoft, not the windows linux war, the thing thats going to make users change to Linux or indeed most likely for usasbility to OS X or probably more realistic , not to upgrade is LONGHORN, it scares people, those users will stick to theyre OEM Home XP or Pro. Alot even stick to 2000.

This is where Longhorn is not going to get a hold, enterprises wont adopt longhorn in a LOOOONGTIME, look how long its taking them to migrate to XP and 2003.

Fanboi syndrome will be costly to those that cant look around and accept the fact that there is alternatives. I always keep those alternatives that I seem will most likely be a success on my VMWare guest and keep track of them, when they get to a good stage of maturity I migrate to them.

One criteria for any solution I use now is PLATFORM INDEPENDANCE, this is why openoffice is a WIN! its on many platforms and no licencing hassles. We run a hetrogenous network and this is ever more important to have applications available on all of them.

Silicon Insider: R.I.P. Microsoft?

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the.furrygoat.experience: R.I.P. Microsoft

TrackBack — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:41:00 GMT

Lots of folks are talking about this article. While it's somewhat frustrating that it always seems to be 'in style' to rip on Microsoft, the article does has a few interesting items worth digesting.

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Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:22:00 GMT

While we are on the subject of microsoft losing ground :D

Where can I find an open source AutoRoute or Mappoint clone? I downloaded AutoRoute 2005 , yeah so what I didnt pay :P Cry all you want, this is what you have to face up to :P

So any takers?

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Hmmm — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:02:00 GMT

Microsoft smells of rot?

Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer (probably?) shower at least once a month. I can't bear to even THINK about the stench of RMS!

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Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:51:00 GMT

Gates is just a Janitor now, he has no real signifigance in Microsoft, Balmer was good for microsoft but where is he now? Very quiet atm isnt he? When is his next monkey dance gig on the world tour?

RMS, when did he last shave and wash?

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hah — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:58:00 GMT

I got an attached document from my Bank the other day, I opened it in OpenOffice and it was a Word 2.0 document, and it wouldnt open so I promptly mailed the bank back asking if they wanted me to read theyre document they can kindly credit my account with the amount to go and purchase MS Office. They promptly resent the mail in a format that I could read, TEXT in the Body.

Thats how I deal with companies that send me MS Office formats. Its a very effective way to deal with banks LOL and also a way to get a message to them that not everybody wants to use OVERPRICED software suites full of features that I do not need.

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hah — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 04:00:00 GMT

Next time maybe I should send my documents to them as an attached BMP file, I mean everybody has Paint, right? :D

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jock — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:27:00 GMT

All geeks stink. The question is which geeks stink the most.

I suspect *nix geeks are stinkier than Win32 geeks.

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hmmm — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:54:00 GMT

jock, I disagree. Using a distro like Gentoo gives you time to shower while its compiling.

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Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:06:00 GMT

Redhat gives you cooties

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Natasha — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:34:00 GMT

In my humble experience of working in technology, geeks can be a great laugh and good fun, but can be so obsessed with hating Microsoft, that it becomes amusing. It's like a religion to them!
What has been interesting is observing a difference in their attitudes when they start to actually get to *know* Microsoft related products and languages. In my experience, a couple of hardcore Microsoft-basher programmers chilled-out a little once learning XML. They didn't fall in love with Microsoft, but were able to appreciate the *benefits* of the 'evil empire'. Extremity in anything is unhealthy and biased... it prevents any kind of objectivity.

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lojo — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:37:00 GMT

OMFG!!1 RMS has trimmed his beard!!

http://news.com.com/Bill+Gates+and+other+communists/2010-1071_3-5576230.html

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Eric — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:01:00 GMT

"In my experience, a couple of hardcore Microsoft-basher programmers chilled-out a little once learning XML. They didn't fall in love with Microsoft, but were able to appreciate the *benefits* of the 'evil empire'."

Are you trying to imply that Microsoft invented XML?

http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/academics/courses/is290-14/s05/lecture-2/slide2.html

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Moonbase — Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:29:00 GMT

Sure, lots of people noticed the search launch (so the author used the wrong wording there) but importantly most panned it and Google and Yahoo's stock actually went up afterwards.

WRT MSN, he's right - it's a also-ran. Sure, you can find people here and there who like it or even love it - of course. The real test is whether or not is making any headway against it's main competitors and frankly, as Yahoo's and Google's results show, it isn't.

WRT student hires, that's a difficult one to prove although common sense suggests that with a brutally underperforming stock, MSFT has to be somewhat less attractive that it was.

I notice you avoided his discussion on Apple and Open Source capturing user interest. Can you really debate that? Also his discussion about the inability to ship core products. Again, can you really debate that? Longhorn and the recent delay of CRM come are obvious examples that he's right.

Net net, he may/may not be right about his conclusion but he raises many issues that should be concerning. Also, the fact that his conclusion can even be debated says everything imo about what MSFT isn't doing currently - in case the stock's brutal underperformance wasn't a sufficient clue.

Mini-Microsoft

TrackBack — Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:03:00 GMT

Mini-Microsoft

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Warcraft 3 — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:03:00 GMT

Ahh...I thought you launched. :)

At what levels was the beta at? 50% of all MSN searches? 75%? It will be interesting for us all to figure out how effective your ensuing marketing campaign is towards generating additional MSN traffic.

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