re: Agile in the beginning: the Microsoft Solutions Framework circa 1993

Sam Gentile — Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:40:23 GMT

I wonder if either you are joking or this is a troll? You think Agile is about minimal documentation?

re: Agile in the beginning: the Microsoft Solutions Framework circa 1993

Scott Bellware — Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:56:32 GMT

> It would be interesting to trace the origins
> of the daily build and other good dev team
> practices. Who did it first?

Tracing the origin of the daily build would only to glorify an accomplishment that's as relevant today as impressive today as an under-sea telegraph cable in the age of hand-held satellite communications.

VST-F shipped without continuous integration in the box. The unit testing framework doesn't allow for abstract test base classes. We had to fight to get test-first programming mentioned in MSF Agile.

It's the analog of the under-sea telegraph cable that Microsoft is trying to sell as an Agile toolkit and methodology. MSF Agile is Agile mostly in name (though not entirely), and VSTS fits an Agile developer like horse shoes might fit a greyhound.

When Microsoft itself becomes a recognized practitioner of Agile practices, it will have a much better chance of actually creating tools for Agile development that are built with an understanding of the needs of tooling for Agile development.

Until then, I suppose it's fair to allow Softies to bask in the glory of antiquated past accomplishments like the daily build.

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