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Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive: General Troubleshooting

I thought it might be useful to post about general troubleshooting on the Xbox 360 HD DVD drive. For issues with specific movies, see my other post, this one covers the more general case. (I use the term "title" which you can read as "movie", its a habit I have got into from working on this for the last few years and is hard to break - forgive me).

Can't read the disc

If this happens when you try to start the disc then it means critical data could not be read. Be sure to check the usb cable to the drive and its connections, and if you are using a different cable try swapping back the original to test with. To verify the connection try playing a DVD: if that doesn't work either then it must be a connection issue. If the DVD test works, try a different HD DVD. If that works then something is probably up with the disc, so try cleaning the disc. The Xbox player is pretty good at recovering from read errors once the movie starts, but read errors in critical areas of the disc used to start it up will cause this error.

Playback stops with an error code

If the movie starts up then dies with an error blade, note the error code (which is an 8-digit hex number). Try again and see if the problem is consistent. Error codes are caused by either bugs in the content on the disc, or by bugs in the player software itself. For player bugs, be sure you are running the latest version of the firmware (see below). Once you have confirmed you are running the latest player and the problem persists, then try searching the internet (or looking on the title-specific post that follows this one) for the error code and the title name which may lead you to a work-around. 

Playback Hangs on startup (on network titles)

If the player appears to hang with a black screen on startup (but pressing Display still works), and it is a network-aware title then you may have hit a problem with the downloaded content. If other discs work but this specific one does not, then this is likely the problem. First be sure you have the latest version of the player (see below). If the problem remains then you will need to delete the pstorage for that title (see below). What can happen is that the downloaded content can be corrupt or have a bug, and the player will automatically run the downloaded content in preference to that on the shiny disc. Deleting the pstorage works around the problem. 

Player Hangs after startup (or on non-network titles)

If everything seems to stop, press Display: if nothing appears then its a "hard hang" and the player has likely crashed: your only option is to reboot the Xbox. If Display works then it is a "soft hang": chapter skipping or pressing Menu may get you out of this state. The Xbox button then Y will exit to the dashboard if the title refuses to continue. Such issues are rare, and can be caused by a title bug or player bug. Be sure to be running the latest version of the player (see below). If the problem is reproducable I recommend searching the net for possible work-arounds, or report it to Microsoft. 

Network Issues

If you are having trouble accessing networked content on a title, first off make sure you are signed into Xbox Live before starting the disc. This ensures you have a working network connection, and is a requirement before using any network features on the Xbox player. Next ensure Networking is enabled in the player: run any HD DVD disc, press Display, navigate to Network Settings and make sure Enable Network Access is checked. Additionally many network titles check the connection right when the disc starts up, so if you are not connected at that point then the network features will remain disabled. Second, be sure you are running the latest version of the player (see below). If this is all true but you still cannot connect to the networked content, check the support site for the disc you are using (many of the network error dialogs will include an error code and a web address to check for more assistance). As a last resort you may need to delete the title's pstorage (see below). 

Make Sure You Are Running the Latest Version of the Player

The current version of the Xbox player software is 2.0.5127 (to see the version play any HD DVD, press Display then choose the ? icon). If you don't have the latest version then connect to Xbox Live and play an HD DVD disc to automatically update the player, or download the CD-R image and burn yourself an update disc. Note that player updates are separate and indepdent from Xbox Dashboard updates.

Deleting PStorage

Persistant storage (or pstorage) is 192M of flash memory in the Xbox HD DVD drive that is used to store files for titles. There is a common area, an area for each studio, and an area for each title. Titles and studios are preventing from accessing each others areas. (As you may guess, each "area" here is really a subdirectory). Things that titles commonly store in these areas are bookmarks you have made and network downloads. To manage pstorage you need to go to the Xbox dashboard, go to the System blade, select Memory, then select HD DVD Player. You will see a list of title areas, along with their size. If you are lucky you will see an actual movie name, and you can select it and delete its pstorage. However many titles right now will show up as "Unknown Title", so to delete one you will need to guess which is the one you want to delete. It so happens that the most recently created title area is usually the last one one in the list, so try deleting that, or choose one based on the size: if most are tiny but one is many megabytes, chances are good that the large one is the network download. If this trial-and-error method does not work then you may need to delete everything from pstorage, which you do by stopping at the "Storage Device" screen, navigating to the "HD DVD Player" item and pressing Y for Device Options, then "Delete All Content". This will wipe every title's pstorage, so be aware of that. (The fact that many show up as "Unknown Title" is a problem that is being worked on: as newer titles appear which label their areas correctly, this problem should lessen).

Published Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:55 PM by andypennell

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Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:10 PM by Computers » Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive: General Troubleshooting

# Computers » Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive: General Troubleshooting

Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:11 PM by Computers » Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive: General Troubleshooting

# Computers » Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive: General Troubleshooting

Friday, October 26, 2007 11:57 AM by Ryan

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I'll attempt to describe an issue that I was having so that people might be aware of it.

When playing Halo 3, I was constantly having the 'Select a storage device' screen popup whlie playing. This happened pretty consistently, whether in singleplayer, multiplayer, or just the menu.

I eventually found out that this was due to a faulty USB cable connecting to my HD-DVD player. It would constantly gain and lose connection to my 360, and this would confuse Halo 3, and even cause my 360 to crash quite often. Xbox Support claimed that this was due to a faulty 360, but I reproduced it on other systems, and confirmed that a different USB cable fixed the problem.

Though my HD-DVD player isn't even a month old yet, and my 360 is relatively new (Elite), support was not willing to send me a new USB cable. The main thing I am trying to say in this comment, is that a faulty USB cable (even the original one) can cause completely system instability, even when you aren't using the HD-DVD drive at the time.

Monday, November 05, 2007 12:47 PM by Shadrick

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I had the same problem.  The 360 would lose track of the HD-DVD player and this cause issues with Halo 3 and the system in general.  I figured the same thing, that it was the cable so I changed the cable.  It was fine for a few days and now the same problem has arisen.  I need to call Microsoft and perhaps get a replacement.  Will they replace the drive itself?

Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:30 PM by Paul

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I'ved had my player since the day it came out.  Everything has been great until today.  I recently watched Ocean's 13 for the first time.  Movie played great...no problems.  When I turned on my 360 today....it freezes at the opening "Xbox 360" logo....won't continue.  When I unplug the HD-DVD drive and re-started, the 360 workes fine. Any suggestions?  Obviously the 360 isn't liking my HD-DVD player right now.

Thanks,

Paul

Monday, December 03, 2007 1:12 PM by andypennell

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Paul: what happens if you boot without the HD DVD drive, *then* plug it in?

Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:34 PM by Deniz

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I also had my Microsoft USB cable go flaky on me.  I had just purchased a new USB keyboard and plugged it into the back of the HD-DVD drive and then later realized that I couldn't use the keyboard or see the HD-DVD in my dashboard.  I tried a new USB cable and everything was fine.

I figured it was just luck so I saved the Microsoft USB cable and decided to sync up my Harmony remote when my PC lost connection with the remote during the sync.  Microsoft's 360 hardware quality (besides the super-durable controllers) has been disappointing, not to mention the DRM implementation for marketplace downloads.

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:05 PM by Application Development for HD DVD

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Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:26 AM by MikeS

# re: Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive: General Troubleshooting

Just got my HD DVD and the Bourne series. Set everything up and inserted the first movie. No go, had to power off and back on, and restarted the setup process again. This time, I was able to get the movie to play for about 15 mins and then it all went to black. Jumped back to the dashboard and tried to restart the movie but it didn't see the drive. Restarted again, same thing, movie played for 25mins then crashed. Restarted and went to the next movie, 20mins then crashed. This is getting old.

Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:45 PM by andypennell

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Mike: please try the troubleshooting steps on this page, esp trying the drive on another Xbox.

Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:53 PM by TheArsenal

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Hello,i couldn't fine a place for general questions,i was wondering if the xbox 360 hd dvd drive can be used on a tv only,via usb or hdmi cable whithout an xbox 360, i do have a 360 elite,i was just wondering.

Thanks

Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:17 PM by andypennell

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TheArsenal: it needs an Xbox 360 and a display.

Tuesday, January 01, 2008 1:33 AM by Gordon Gray

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My HD DVD will only periodically play my brand new disks I got for Christmas.  The disks are clean and will eventually play (sometimes after sitting for several hours) but not always.  Turning off the 360 and turning it on does not help.  Cleaning the disk does not help.  Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:50 AM by andypennell

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Gordon: see the last comment from me on the Movie Specific post, though as you don't give the specific error I can't be sure its the same issue.

Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:16 PM by JohnnyMess

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My problem with the HD DVD is that a few titles Planet Earth and Chronos especially will start I see the FBI warning on both then NADA.  The screen goes blank. However, I do have other titles that work just fine. I thought it might be the discs but I am curious why they both get to the same place then cut out. From this point on...nothing works on the remote. Any one else have this problem?  Like some of the other posts, I have cleaned the discs.

Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:22 PM by andypennell

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JohnnyMess: No idea, sorry. That's not something I have ever seen myself or can find in our database.

Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:56 PM by Kracked Jack

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Mmmmmm my 360 for some reason does not show my player under memory and i cant watch any movies

Friday, February 29, 2008 6:03 PM by andypennell

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Kracked: can you watch old fashioned DVDs on the add-on?

Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:25 AM by Stephaney

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Hi, I just recently stumbled onto this board while searching for a problem that has occurred following the purchase and install of our 360's HD DVD player.  We bought it after the price drop for $50, thinking it would be a good purchase since there are already so many titles on HD.  Things went great the first few nights, we watched several movies and then later played a few demos from XNA.  The next day we had the urge for a Halo3 bought... stuck the disc in the 360 and... it can't read the disc.  We've tried several other games and NOTHING.  Sometimes a blade pops up with "if this is an HDDVD please place in HDDVD drive," others it just say unplayable disc in the bar at the bottom of the screen.  It still plays movies in the drive of course, and we can play demos, but my hub recently bought an HD projector so we could enjoy the full potential of the 360's HD properties, and the only thing we can do is watch movies.  

We've called Microsoft and they've sent us a box to send it back, but it sucks that we have to go without it for a whole week after spending so much money (we've bought SEVERAL HD DVD's for pennies on the dollar).  We ARE on our 6th repair through microsoft so we MIGHT get expedited shipping, hopefully it won't take so long.

After all that rambling, I just want to know if there has been anything similar to this happening?  We updated as soon as we installed it, is there not a manual way to update the player?

email=stephaneylaw@yahoo.com

Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:15 PM by andypennell

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Stephaney: I'm sorry but I know close to nothing about DVD playback on the Xbox, and it looks like the built-in drive failed on you. Doesn't seem HD DVD related to me.

Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:37 PM by Richard

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Hi, i bought a hd dvd drive last week. i have bought some HDDVD movies, and all seem to pause at least 3 time during the movie. sometime fast forwarding unpauses it, other time i have to restart or skip chapter. as you can imagine this is quite annoying. i will download the latest software for it, do you think this will help? or do you think its the drive itself.

Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:50 PM by andypennell

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Richard: sounds like its either the drive or your Xbox

Monday, March 10, 2008 1:47 AM by Kyle

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Andy, I was watching transformers on my hd dvd player just fine last night. I shut the console off half way through and went to bed. Tonight when I try to finish watching it all Im getting is the xbox 360 logo flashing on the screen. However I can hear the audio playing through my surround sound. I have tried unplugging all the cords from both the drive and the box with no luck. What is wrong??

Monday, March 10, 2008 7:02 PM by andypennell

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Kyle, I'm not qualified to help on general 360 hardware issues, sorry.

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