C++ Students and Hobbyists, Lend Me Your Opinions!

re: C++ Students and Hobbyists, Lend Me Your Opinions!

Minh — Tue, 01 Mar 2005 08:15:00 GMT

I've just started writing DirectX games in VC++. So I had to get into CreateWindow & the message pump and all that jazz, which is fine, part of the territory (thank goodness for Charles Petzold). I just remember back in the days when I was trying to learn MFC and gave up because I didn't really understand Windows internals enough to understand MFC. My wish is for VC++ to have an easy-to-use object-oriented UI library. One so easy, even a newbie like me can use. Perhaps, WinForms has spoiled me.

Maybe you were just looking for comments for VC++ the tool, instead of specific Windows requests, but that the thing that came immediately to mind.

Thanks for listening.

P.S. I just don't know what I don't know, but if you can somehow make DirectX apps easier to write, it'd be greatly appreciated.

re: C++ Students and Hobbyists, Lend Me Your Opinions!

Andrew Ahearne — Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:08:00 GMT

What would be nice is if it supported the whole SGI STL.

In Uni we spend a considerable amount of time learning about these containers and when we write our code we have to do so in Linux as your compiler does not support them.

I have no other reason to use Linux other than to code C++ assignments. It would be nice if I didn't have to.

Zero knowledge beginners

ZippyV — Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:29:00 GMT

This is not really an application issue but a lot of young people want to start with a programming language but don't find any good articles/resources or help to learn this language (including C++).
- So a website with articles, lessons and webcasts should help to teach people who have absolutely NO knowledge of any programming language.
- A lot of real world example applications and some articles on how to recreate it.
- Last: How to design a good object oriënted application.

My tip is probably not going to make it for the RTM version of Visual Studio but you can always add it to MSDN later.

re: C++ Students and Hobbyists, Lend Me Your Opinions!

Shaded — Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:51:00 GMT

I second Zippy's eloquent comments. Starting from Zero is difficult, and there are few good resources to support this.

My other big pet peeve is autocomplete should have the ability to guess more complex scenarios. Maybe a beginners toolbar that will help me build loops and explain away the syntax and context of the simplest procedures.

IDEs seem to be fixing a tractor with a allen wrench, everything happens one tiny screw at a time. Why can't the IDE see further into what I want to do and autocomplete big blocks of code?

re: C++ Students and Hobbyists, Lend Me Your Opinions!

Malaga — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:57:00 GMT

Greetings from Malaga (Spain). Antonio :-)

re: C++ Students and Hobbyists, Lend Me Your Opinions!

Abdullah — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:10:59 GMT

hi, I think c++ it's very difficult for student..

even for those who have genius brain.

c++ will be very easy to be presented in funny way, intertaining situation.

we cant force people to learn new language in strict way, human love language(whatever that language is) because it's fun to do..but c++ is machine language, so we must find a way that this language can be fun too ;)

re: C++ Students and Hobbyists, Lend Me Your Opinions!

Mike L. — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:39 GMT

I used C++ for a short while before my 10 year hiatus from programming. The features of built in to create reusable code made good sense to produce solid code in short order. However, C++ is not a good match for embedded software devices where space constraints and execution speed are paramount. As for Visual C++, an excellent product if you need to write a quick M/S windows app, without learning all the structures and variables that go into writing windows apps. However, take Visual C++ out of the Microsoft arena, and you've got a pretty useless tool. I had higher hopes for the TK from TCL/TK - OS independent, and smaller learning curve made it very attractive. Ten years later, with Windows 7, and the dismissal of TCL/TK as a viable language, I'm not sure if there will ever be a decent windows programming tool that does not require a six month learning period and a dedication to programming in a single OS arena.