Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Sam — Thu, 05 May 2005 21:31:15 GMT

I am trying to enable HORM in my system. In the Target Designer, Advanced Configuration and Power Interface PC, Power Management, I checked the Enable Hibernation. But after I checked dependency , built image, deployed the image, there wasn't a hiberfil.sys in the driver C:. What's the problem?

If I type c:> xpepm -hibernate, the system returns ERROR 1141: The system BIOS failed an attempt to change the system power state.

Thanks very much

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Embedded — Sun, 22 May 2005 20:33:44 GMT

This comment is for Sam.

Sounds like your machine doesn't support hibernate. Either through a bios setting or it may be an APM bios, not ACPI. The error you received when running xpepm indicates that the BIOS rejected the request, not the OS.

HORM is a pretty popular subject so I'll ask the team to write up some more blog posts on the subject including troubleshooting tips at the Embedded blog (see link above). In the meantime, i highly recommend posting followup questions on this to the XP Embedded public newsgroup for a more immediate response, there are many people in the community available there to assist as well.
-Andy

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Gil — Sun, 29 May 2005 17:50:34 GMT

Is it possible to use HORM on older version of XPE? (Like SP1)

Best regards,
GIL.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:30:12 GMT

Hi Gil - I have not tried to backport HORM to XPE SP1. I suppose it would be theoretically possible if you got all of the right binaries and placed them into your XPE SP1 image, but this type of solution would not be supported by our team or Product Support. Are there any specific issues that prevent you from using XPE SP2? Perhaps I could help you resolve those? Let me know....

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

amro — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:43:20 GMT

I am also trying to enable HORM in my system
My system has two partition on harddisk.
C: is windows xp-pro SP2 and D: is xpe sp2.

After I deployed the target image and fba done
there wasn't a hiberfil.sys for xpe in the
driver D:. there was a hiberfill.sys in the
C: for xp-pro.

The EWF was work on correctory, but
d:> xpepm -hibernate, the system returns ERROR 1141: The system BIOS failed an attempt to change the system power state. It was same as
Mr. Sam.

In my system on the windows xp-pro SP2,
hibernate was work correctory. Then I thought
taht the bios of my system was supporting a
hibernate.

Is that tight ? and please show me how resolve
this problem.

Thanks very much

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 01:21:07 GMT

Hi Amro - I am not positive what is causing the error that you are seeing when trying to hibernate your XP Embedded image. I would suggest double-checking that you have included all of the necessary hardware and software components when you built your XPe image. If you have included everything and it still does not work, I would suggest reviewing HORM information available on the Windows Embedded team blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/embedded/ and check the Embedded newsgroups for similar problems and resolutions. If those do not help, the alias wecrt (at) microsoft (dot) com may be able to help as well.

Hope this helps!

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Hoshi — Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:00:05 GMT

Hi, I've the same problem as amro on an VIA Epia M Board. With XP Home and Pro I've no problems with hibernation support on this board.
I think that the TargetDesigner do not accept the check mark vor hibernation.

Have anyone a solution or an hint???

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

amro — Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:27:26 GMT

Thank you everyone, I solve a this problem.

When I work on the target designer,
I added a video-driver component that only
for my board. Video chip is ATI radeon M9.
Then I can use HORM.
But I do not know WHY.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Just4UriM — Sun, 04 Sep 2005 12:30:53 GMT

Is it possible to change the CD-ROM when the Windows XP Embedded has been boot from a bootable CD ?

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:45:22 GMT

Hi Just4UriM - I believe that once you have booted from a bootable CD-ROM, your system is running from RAM and it is safe to swap out the CD in the drive. Just remember that if you reboot the system that you need to have the bootable CD in the drive to get the OS to reload.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Just4UriM — Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:33:23 GMT

Thanks astebner , but the problem is that when the Embedded Windows was boot up , the CD-ROM drive is locked! So how can I change the CD ? is there a way to unlock it ?

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:27:57 GMT

Hi Just4UriM - I found out that I am wrong about the behavior of the system regarding bootable CD-ROM drives. In this scenario, the OS is using the CD-ROM in place of the hard drive and is not loading the entire image into RAM like I thought it was. Therefore, it locks the CD-ROM drive to prevent accidental removal of the CD.

One option you might consider is to use 2 CD/DVD drives - an internal CD-ROM to boot from and a more powerful CD/DVD device for runtime use. In this scenario, you could mark the boot device so that it is not visible externally.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Create — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:30:24 GMT

Error caused during hibernation/standby stating device driver error - Keyboard error etc. Disabling a Hidden service YSKeyboardFilter solved my problem. This seems to be a major problem with many user.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Lynda (MSFT) — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 04:41:06 GMT

Do you get the same error on normal hibernate (not using HORM)?

Could you file a bug report athttp://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/community/community/feedback/feedxp/default.aspx, giving more details of the error (error code, hardware and drivers installed) so we can investigate?

Thanks!

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

King Louie — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:33:27 GMT

You know hibernate could be a great basis for a kewl app that saves games, desktop states etc. too bad no developers have figured this out.

error while creating a bootable cd

venkat — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:00:05 GMT

Respected sir,
I have a problem while creating a bootable cd for windows xp embedded.i have created iso-image and had written the iso-image contents into the cd using GEAR PRO version 7.0 software.the only problem is now i have connected the deployment hard disk has primary hard disk with the target image contents and i have given this has primary device to boot from and at the same time i have loaded the cd in the cd rom whichi have written.ultimately it has to boot but its not booting i am not getting any thing in the black screen except li.so please help me in this matter.

from
venkat

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

venkat — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:00:32 GMT

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:37:32 GMT

Hi Venkat - Unfortunately, I don't have much experience debugging bootable CD-ROM creation/booting issues. I would suggest trying to contacting the Windows Embedded team via their blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/embedded/contact.aspx) or searching on the newsgroups for some advice about how to troubleshoot this scenario. I'm sorry I'm not able to be more helpful here.

re: HORM in a nutshell, starting an app

Michael Bate — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:36:01 GMT

I have implemented HORM with reasonable success, with XPe SP2. I am able to

But I would like to start up an application after a HORM boot - I want the application to start from the beginning, since it performs various hardware initializations.

Is there any way to do this?

ALSO I don't see what UI Core option enables Hibernate in the Start Menu. I see the "Standby" option on Shut Down, but that does not appear to initiate hibernation.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Fri, 14 Apr 2006 02:43:09 GMT

Hi Michael - HORM does not support starting applications after the HORM boot. If you require that type of functionality, I would suggest taking a look at a 3rd party product such as ReadyOn by Ardence (http://www.ardence.com/embedded/products.aspx?ID=72).

For your other UI issue, did you enable hibernation support in Target Designer when you built your embedded runtime? I believe this is a part of the HAL component. Also, if you don't have this menu option, how are you hibernating currently? Do you use xpepm.exe since the menu option is not available?

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:41:29 GMT

Hi Michael - One other note here, if you are referring to the Windows "Turn off computer" menu, you can cause the Standby menu item to turn into a Hibernate menu item by clicking on Start, choosing Shut Down and then hold down the shift key.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

Helen Elcock — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:36:31 GMT

Hi Michael.

I have horm all working fine :) however I do not want "hibernate" in the system shutdown menu as I do not want the user to be able to overwrite the carefully created hiberfile.sys.

Is there any way to remove hibernate from the shutdown option. I have my own program that hibernates so I do not need it to create the horm file.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:58:56 GMT

Hi Helen - I'm sorry, but I'm not aware of a way to disable the Hibernate button or hide it on the shutdown menu. I did a few quick web searches, but only found ways to enable it as opposed to ways to disable it.

Since Windows XP Embedded uses the same underlying binaries that are a part of Windows XP, I'd suggest posting a question on one of the Windows XP public newsgroups to see if anyone there has any suggestions.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

huangbichong — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:07:33 GMT

I have a problem,I use ewf(C:RAM) with Hibernate to make horm,the horm is work in gear,but I don't no why my D volume is protected,all Write to D it is no to use,if you can give me some advice?

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

astebner — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:36:51 GMT

Hi Huangbichong - I'd suggest starting by looking at the EWF settings on your device to double-check which drive(s) are being protected and by what method. You can use the ewfmgr.exe utility or look at the settings directly in the registry.

If everything looks right there, then I'm not sure what to suggest because it has been a while since I've worked with EWF and HORM. You can post a question on the XP Embedded forums and there are usually a lot of folks there who can help suggest ideas. There is a specific forum for embedded enabling features like EWF and HORM that I'd suggest using for this - http://forums.microsoft.com/EmbeddedWindows/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=1178&SiteID=47.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

huangbichong — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:52:19 GMT

Thank you for you help!

I test the ewf ,when I just enable the ewf ,

the D volume not protected,everything is in gear.

but when I try to ewf+hibernate,D is protected

now I upgrad my ewf module,when I want to make horm,I just need to input "ewf c: -activehorm" in cmd,and hibernate.

but it still protected D,not just D,

E is protected.

I try to post a question on the XP Embedded forums to find the answer.

re: Hibernate once, resume many (HORM) in a nutshell

huangbichong — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:41:31 GMT

it seem this article will give me a answer

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa460084.aspx

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