Astoria Online Service --> SQL Server Data Services

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re: Astoria Online Service --> SQL Server Data Services

Steve A — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:24:57 GMT

I am kinda dissappointed to hear all of what is going on with SSDS while I see the potential at the moment Silverlight is the buz but only on the presentation side. To create a real line of Business CRUD app in SL is still not there yet (not in a future proof MS architectured way) and from what I can work out from all the various blog posts around SQL Data Services is going to be that missing link, it's going to be what enables us to create real world Line of Business apps in SL. So I am dissappointed that we don't have this SL component yet and it's seems the teams focus is more on SSDS and therefore will this delay our much required and anticipated SL component ?

re: Astoria Online Service --> SQL Server Data Services

pabloc — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:09:16 GMT

Steve: I can guarantee you that we're making a huge effort to have a great Astoria-Silverlight story. We had to wait until all the pieces necessary to enable the scenario were in place in the Silverlight platform. We'll post to this blog as soon as we have concrete news.

-pablo

re: Astoria Online Service --> SQL Server Data Services

BenHayat — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:00:37 GMT

Pablo, thank you for your comment to Steve's post. The only thing that has stopped me going forward with SL, is Astoria for SL. So, I'm very glad this is a top priority on your agenda. Please keeps informed how Astoria for SL is coming.

Oh BTW, is the next release of Astoria for SL (and beta 2 of SL) going to support LINQ2SQL fully (with update)?

Thank you Pablo!

..Ben

re: Astoria Online Service --> SQL Server Data Services

pabloc — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:13:45 GMT

Ben: hang in there...we'll have an SL client for you guys :)

Regarding LINQ to SQL: we won't have support for it out of the box, although you could implement the update interface yourself. Given that we have full support for Entity Framework/LINQ to Entities (which gives us access to SQL Server and also other databases), there isn't much motivation to also do LINQ to SQL...

-pablo

re: Astoria Online Service --> SQL Server Data Services

Mark — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:40:54 GMT

Hey there,

Nothing new here but I would echo the comments above, that we are very eagerly awaiting the SL 2 Astoria client.

Our architecture story was complete with WCF and home grown domain objects and the Enterprise Library. That's now changed and we've taken a leap of faith with EF and Astoria. At this point the productivity impact of not having a SL 2 client is forcing us to consider a rollback.

Any bits you can release even in raw shape will at least minimize rewriting service consumption / presentation layer binding.

Thanks.

Register Now for SSDS Closed Beta

SlickThought.Net — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:56:34 GMT

re: Astoria Online Service --> SQL Server Data Services

BenHayat — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:03:03 GMT

Hi Mark;

I think you have made the right decision to wait for Astoria. writing (your own) middle tier server can take a lot of resources. I have great faith in Astoria team and I've decided to wait for them. Just my two cents!

..Ben

re: Astoria Online Service --> SQL Server Data Services

Mark — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:03:12 GMT

By the way - just to comment on the actual thread topic :) ...

For a SaaS shop, is SSDS really a sensible option? It seems this would be years and years away, and way too much of a gamble in terms of features, accessibility, and performance.

With Astoria however - it conceivably kills two birds with one stone for us. Feeds the RIA, and also exposes integration points. Beauty.

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Daniel — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:03:25 GMT

I think that leaving LINQ to SQL behind because EF is already supported is a shame. Many people use LINQ to SQL, but not EF. L2S, today, is a better RAD tool with better support for persistence ignorance.