Andrew Coates ::: MSFT

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August, 2004

  • Andrew Coates ::: MSFT

    Microsoft Speak


    I've been at Microsoft for just on 6 months now and I guess that's a reasonable amount of time to have settled in and got an impression of the place from the inside. One thing that's struck me (especially having been an independent contractor for the 7 years prior to starting here) is the localised version of the language spoken here. It's not just the TLAs and the code names that I'm talking about (although there are enough of those), it's mannerisms as well. The one that I notice most often (and that I've discovered that I've subconsciously adopted) is prefixing the answer to any question with the word "So". Here's an example:


    Q: What's Microsoft's roadmap for the release of Visual Studio 2005?


    A: So, what we've announce publicly is … < answer continues here >


    This seems to just happen, regardless of the context of the conversation or audience, but especially when resuming an inturrupted conversation.


    The next idiosyncrasy we adopt is the use of the word "right" to confirm that our interlocutor agrees with the position we've put forward. This might sound like fairly standard practice, but it seems we've made it into an art form. It generally gets used either when we're not sure of the position even though we're putting it forward as gospel (as in "I know it doesn't work that way yet, but that's going to be included in beta 2, right?") or when we're so sure of the position that the conversation probably shouldn't even be happening. It seems not to be used in the middle ground situation (where the speaker knows the answer, but doesn't expect the audience to know it as well).


    We speak a lot about things happening in the <insert product codeword here> timeframe. I guess this one makes some sense. It's much more accurate to say that "Object Spaces will be released in the Longhorn timeframe" than to try to give a month and year. It just strikes me as interesting every time this happens (and trust me, it happens a lot).


    I'm not from a very corporate background (I worked at a university for 3 years before my 7 years as an independent), so I'm not sure how widespread the phrase "going forward" is (as in, "that's our plan going forward). I would guess that it's generally not uncommon, but it's endemic where I work. It seems a little more "jargony" than something like "from now on" or "in the future". It's another phrase that I notice every time it's used, and one that makes me cringe whenever I catch myself using it.


    Finally the phrase that I hear most often is


    dramatically provide access to mission-critical leadership skills and assertively coordinate world-class paradigms for 100% customer satisfaction


    Only kidding -- I got that one from the Dilbert Mission Statement Generator.

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    Tech•Ed Channel9 Video


    Probably the most fun I had at Tech•Ed was shooting and editing footage for Channel9. Michael Kleef and I went around with a DV camera and basically shoved it into people's faces, talking to them about Tech•Ed, what they thought about the conference, and so on. Each night I streamed the footage down to my laptop over Firewire and edited it using Windows Movie Maker -- a very neat bit of software. I then uploaded the result to the corporate network the next day for the Channel9 crew to review and post on the site.

    The results will be up on Channel9 some time pretty soon. When they're there I'll put a note up here, along with the details of a little exercise you might find rewarding.

    Stay Tuned!

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    QMSDNUG August Meeting Notice


    Greg Low Sends me the following great news:

    Hi Folks,

    Our meeting this month will be Tuesday, the 17th August.

    Thanks to Joseph Cooney for his assistance with the session in July. This month we have another real treat. Dave Apelt is back in town and will


    Rapid N-Tier development in .Net

    N-Tier architecture is considered the premier design in creating scalable applications. Despite n-tier's benefits many .Net based software engineering projects fall short full n-tier architecture due to an array of issues.

    David Apelt recently had an opportunity to research these issues and a solution developed that allows .Net developers to rapidly create and maintain n-Tier applications.

    The presentation will be of most interest to people involved in the development of new .Net applications irrespective of their platform. It will cover a broad range of topics and will be of interest to the beginner as well as experienced developers.


    David Apelt provides software engineering solutions to small and medium sized enterprises around Australia. He writes several shareware applications that can be seen on his web site at A precursor to 'Line Speed Meter' was developed for a QMSDNUG presentation three years ago.

    I got to see Dave's ideas on the first version of this and I'm certain it will provide an interesting topic for the meeting and will raise a lot of discussion.

    As usual, an early RSVP will help with planning pizzas, etc. Please RSVP by email to

    Be there: 5:45pm for 6:00pm start Tuesday, 17th August 2004

    Finish: around 7:30pm

    Location: Microsoft Brisbane Office, Level 9, Waterfront Place, 1 Eagle St, Brisbane.

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    Behind the Scenes at Tech•Ed in Canberra

    As Frank mentioned here. Michael and I will be making a video for Channel9 at Tech•Ed this year. I'm in the pre-production phase today, going through some ideas for a very corny opening. If you're going to be at Tech•Ed then keep an eye out for us -- we'll have a Video Camera at the ready and very possibly be wearing a Channel9 T-shirt. If you're not going to be there, watch this space for an announcement of the video's availability.
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    ADNUG VS2005 Install-Fest this Wednesday


    Just a reminder; This just in from Peter Griffith:

    ADELAIDE DOT NET USERS GROUP.                
    The next meeting of ADNUG will be held on WEDNESDAY 11th August at 6pm
     SA Innovation Centre  Level 2,  Santos House, King William Street, Adelaide  
    Visitors welcome. See below for Programme.   
    ADNUG web site       notice of meetings  
    The doors outside the lifts for 2nd floor are locked at 7pm.
    Access through lane from King William Street, or lane from Topham St Mall
    If you arrive after 7pm ring  0408 832891 or 0403 432393 and we will come down to the After Hours exit in Currie St and let you in.
    Door Prize tonight
    Tonight is Whidbey-Fest
    As outlined in previous emails, there will be DVDs/CDs provided with Virtual PC, Whidbey beta 1 and Express products.
    We will be supplying a Virtual PC for you to install, if you don't already have it, a DVD which has a zipped file of Whidney beta 1 already installed under XP Pro (120 day version). This can be then copied directly to the VPC partition on your laptop/PC and when unzipped is about 4Gb. There will also be CDs containing Express items also pre-installed under XP Pro (120 day version) which can be copied directly to your VPC partition. 
    In order to have enough preinstalled CDs prepared for you so that you can simply copy the zipped file into a Virtual PC partition, we ask that you let us know (just email a reply) stating your requirement.
    If you bring a laptop/PC, suggest you bring a power board


     6.00 pm questions and answers. Bring along your .Net  problems and we will try to answer.
    6.15 pm Darren Neimke, James Roe-Smith, Sorin Buzila
    Dan and I will be helping Darren, James and Sorin co-ordinate the distribution of CDs intially installing Virtual PC, then copying the files from the DVDs/CDs to your laptops, unzipping and commissioning the various Whidbey components.  At various breaks in the evening, Darren, Sorin and James will discuss various new features of Whidbey.

    Tonight we are getting Pizza in ($5).  Hang about, have something to eat and drink and help to solve the programming problems of the world.

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    MSDN Connection Lounge at Tech•Ed


    The card swipers are finally in production and I had an opportunity to use my MSDN Connection membership card in earnest. Caroline did a great job running the lounge (including getting it moved from the COLD tent where there was no connnectivity inside to the warm and wirelessly accessible exhibition hall). The lounge had an XBox and couches and was a great place to hang out and chat with members of the community.


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    Dinners at Tech•Ed


    SplaTT, Frank and Mark all started a rumour that there would be a Geek Dinner on the Wednesday night. It turns out that the chosen venue was closed (perhaps someone warned them). We moved up the mall to an Irish Pub and proceeded to consume Geek Guiness. I chatted with Phil Beadle (who is, along with Scott McCulloch, one of the core DotNet Nuke team) from Byte and a bunch of other people. Great fun.

    Wednesday night, before the Tech•Ed party, a heap of us went to dinner with Microsoft Senior VP, Eric Rudder. We found ourselves at a local Pizza establishment and geeks of all descriptions bent Eric's ear about topics near and dear to their hearts. Craig Bailey even managed to convince Eric to give OzFox 2004 a plug.

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    Online chat: Upgrading COM Applications to .NET with Visual C++ 2005 (5am-6am Sep 3 AEST)


    There are some great webcasts coming out of the US, albeit at not great times. This one follows on very nicely from our July MSDN Update.

    Are there webcast topics you'd like to see delivered by local presenters at ANZ friendly times? We have world-class developers and presenters among the .NET community here in the region and we're planning to leverage them this financial year. Chuck's already lining up plans for a couple of great topics, but we're after more suggestions for topics, presenters and so on. Let us know!

    Many applications consume and expose COM interfaces as their object models today. And .NET has tools such as tlbimp, tlbexp and COM Interop support for RCWs and CCWs to help integrate managed code with COM objects. In addition, there are also a number of options in C++ unavailable to other languages such as C# or VB. Some mechanisms are simpler to code, while others provide deeper control over aspects such as data and interface marshaling, custom interface support and performance tuning. What are these options and when do I use them? What conveniences does Visual C++ provide to "go deep" but retain the simplicity of a tool like tlbimp? What goes on under the hood that I need to be aware of when I provide my own interface wrapping, and why might I do this? How is the COM apartment model honored when I recompile as managed code? What AppDomain and threading issues should I be aware of and how do I avoid any pitfalls? What is the fine-print surrounding areas like using interface sinks, object lifetime control, and COM capabilities in mixed or pure images? If you expose or consume COM interfaces in your C/C++ applications today and need to know your options moving forward in .NET then this chat is for you.

    September 2, 2004
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    Online Chat: Visual C++ 2005 Library and Runtime Enhancements (5am - 6am Sep 17 AEST)


    The next release of Visual C++ includes many new and enhanced libraries which improve security, support managed code and integrate existing applications and components. The CRT and STL fully support managed applications. There is a new secure CRT and STL that offer safe interfaces to familiar functionality. The managed support library provides conveniences such as lock patterns, COM interface wrapping and type marshaling templates. MFC has new support for integration with .NET Windows Forms to enable incremental migration of existing UI to incorporate .NET controls and forms. Bring your questions about new and existing application development to find out more on the next generation of libraries in Visual C++.

    September 16, 2004
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    Pros and Cons of re-writing, or "If it ain't broke ..."


    Rick Strahl, formerly a VFP MVP and now a .NET MVP (in C# I think, but with Rick it would just have been a matter of choosing a category) has a great post on why he's not re-writing one of his flagship applications (currently written in VFP) in .NET. Well worth a read. While you're there, have a look at some of the very neat things Rick is doing with both VFP and .NET.

    BTW, Rick will be out here in Australia at the end of November to speak at OzFox, along with Ken Levy and a bevy of great speakers.

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