A couple of weeks ago, the Astoria and Jasper teams sat down (separately) with Charles Torre of Channel 9 to discuss each of these new products. To view an indepth Astoria whiteboard session with Pablo Castro check out http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=305985 ; for upclose demos and discussion with the Jasper team check out http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=306240 .