Computer Science Teacher
Computer Science Teacher - Thoughts and Information from Alfred Thompson

  • Computer Science Teacher - Thoughts and Information from Alfred Thompson



    Brian Scarbeau has an announcement in his blog about a series of web casts he is presenting for high school teachers. It is all about using Dot Net Nuke. Brian uses DNN for his own web site and as a teaching tool in his web design course. Visit Brian's blog for more detail on these webcasts including dates, times and registration information. Brian is a great instructor and I highly recommend him. You can register for Brian's workshop webcast from MainFunction the high school computer science teacher community site.

    Edit: More information about webcasts for high school computer science teachers may be found at There are a number of interesting and useful webcast series coming up.

  • Computer Science Teacher - Thoughts and Information from Alfred Thompson

    Weed them out or teach better?


    I don't know how many teachers are reading blogs during the Christmas break (or the winter break between now and New Years) but I hope some of you are reading this one. Joel Spolsky has a very interesting entry called The Perils of JavaSchools. No it is not an anti-Sun and/or anti-java rant. Well not in the sense that I might write one. :-) What it is though is an interesting and potentially provocative look at the state of computer science education.

    Two things that Joel believes that CS students need more of are recursion and pointers. While you can do recursion in Java it seems like a lot of students don't quite get it in school. Now the Advanced Placement Computer Science curriculum does require recursion I tend to believe that a lot of teachers don't teach it well. Some of that is because many of us didn't learn it very well ourselves. I confess that I was late coming to an understanding and appreciation of recursion. Now pointers I appreciated early in my career but than I was doing a lot of playing around with operating system internals back in the day.

    Joel argues for these tools not so much for themselves though. Rather he likes them for the way they help people look at things differently. The mental flexibility and mental ability. I really agree with that notion. Tiny is the number of times I really needed recursion and smaller still the number of times (outside of OS work) where I needed pointers. Still the fact that I understood them served me well in understanding other things like who databases and indexes work.

    But I disagree with Joel on the value of "weed out courses." I don't think they are a good idea at all. Well perhaps they can be used to weed out the poor instructors. I happen to think that programming is not so hard if it is taught well. Teaching it well, well ok, that is hard. Joel complains about schools that "fail to train the brains of kids to be adept, agile, and flexible enough to do good software design (and I don't mean OO "design", where you spend countless hours rewriting your code to rejiggle your object hierarchy, or you fret about faux "problems" like has-a vs. is-a). You need training to think of things at multiple levels of abstraction simultaneously, and that kind of thinking is exactly what you need to design great software architecture." I don't think we need to weed out students who can't learn those things because I don't believe there are all that many people who can't learn them. We do need to find better ways to teach those concepts though.

    I do believe that you can teach good computer science with C#, Visual Basic, Scheme, and even Java. I also believe that you need to learn a language like C/C++ at some point if you are serious about computer science. But the basic concepts and the critical thinking skills can be taught with almost any language. What is required though is a focus on the concepts and not on the language. That can be difficult, especially in a first programming course. But it is worth the effort.

    One last thing. Most of my students reported that they learned new languages, as different as FORTRAN and Java, in college very easily because they understood the concepts. Ask them to create a linked list in a new language and most of them could do so fairly easily. If a student finds that they can’t learn a new programming language quickly you have to wonder if it is because they are not a quick study or did who ever taught them let them down?

  • Computer Science Teacher - Thoughts and Information from Alfred Thompson

    Teachers and Christmas Break

    Do you (if you are a teacher) assign projects over the winter holiday break? If you are not a teacher what do you think are the pros and cons of doing so? How about your own activities over the holiday? Other than catching up with grading (which I know I always had to take care of) do you work on school things? For example do you work on new coding projects to assign or try to learn new things to teach your students?
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