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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>A Fine Arts Degree in Computer Programming</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx</link><description>The first thing I think we have to get out of the way is that programming and computer science are not the same thing. They are overlapping but clearly computer science is a lot more than just programming. Often times that means that programming doesn</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Evolution Platform Developer Build (Build: 5.6.50428.7875)</generator><item><title>10 Golden Rules For Teaching Computer Science</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx#7327557</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:52:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7327557</guid><dc:creator>Computer Science Teacher - Thoughts and Information from Alfred Thompson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It's often amazing what you find while you are looking for something else. Last week while following&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7327557" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>Bachelor of Arts in Computer Science, or just change the curriculum?</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx#7076236</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:34:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7076236</guid><dc:creator>Nifty Fifty</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Alfred Thompson discusses the concept of a Bachelor of Arts, Computer Science, and I have been working&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7076236" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: A Fine Arts Degree in Computer Programming</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx#7076010</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:21:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7076010</guid><dc:creator>Surf4Fun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This is an indication of the change in the student needs at corporations, other than Aerospace corporations. &amp;nbsp;Students in the US have to contend with a curriculum that is chock full of &amp;quot;General Education&amp;quot; courses that serve little or no purpose in the modern world. &amp;nbsp;To have a student waste time with a language like scheme, for most students is a waste of time. &amp;nbsp;Corporations definitely have needs, hobbyists have needs, lifelong learners have needs. &amp;nbsp;The need is object oriented languages that use libraries. &amp;nbsp;The amount of actual work out there that uses non-object oriented languages is quite small.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7076010" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: A Fine Arts Degree in Computer Programming</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx#7066367</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:07:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7066367</guid><dc:creator>Luke Gedeon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I think of programming more as a craft because the result, if done correctly, is both functional and beautiful instead of something just to be seen or heard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7066367" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: A Fine Arts Degree in Computer Programming</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx#7054265</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:22:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7054265</guid><dc:creator>Alfred Thompson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Ben, you ask good questions and I don't have a good answer myself. I would be happy is more programs just taught with some focus on elegance and something about code &amp;quot;looking good.&amp;quot; I use looking in the sense of having some appeal to the mind for the way it is structured and logical and not thrown together.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7054265" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: A Fine Arts Degree in Computer Programming</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx#7047225</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:30:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7047225</guid><dc:creator>Ben Chun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;How is this &amp;quot;art&amp;quot; different from software engineering with an emphasis on applications? &amp;nbsp;Or is the function of the software being developed specifically artistic? &amp;nbsp;There seem to be a number of graduate programs focused on the intersection between design, information visualization, and programming (ACG, ITP, etc). &amp;nbsp;Were you imagining an undergraduate version of this sort of thing? &amp;nbsp;Or just advocating that software engineering be taught with a greater focus on elegance and applications as opposed to proof?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7047225" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: A Fine Arts Degree in Computer Programming</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx#7042131</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:09:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7042131</guid><dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I totally agree that there should be a BFA in Programming. Programming is an art with a scientific (logical) background. I have always heard that musicians make some of the best programmers because of their ability to apply an artistic spin to their code and their understanding of music (hence math and logic).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7042131" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: A Fine Arts Degree in Computer Programming</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2008/01/09/a-fine-arts-degree-in-computer-programming.aspx#7039771</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:58:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7039771</guid><dc:creator>Noli San Jose</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hmm... Interesting idea. I wonder if my case is an example of this, ie, a Fine Arts graduate who's now a programmer for nine years. And I'm definitely moving more and more in favor of the idea that programming is more of an art than a science.&lt;/p&gt;
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