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Post-beta1 community tech previews of Visual Studio 2005 express editions now available!

Post-beta1 community tech previews of Visual Studio 2005 express editions now available!

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Hey all,

The Visual Studio team has released a set of web-downloadable community tech previews for the VS 2005 express editions.  If you go to the individual express edition pages and click the big Download link, it will still download the beta1 versions.  However, if you scroll down to the Express Headlines section, there is a link to download the October 2004 community tech preview.  For your convenience, here are the direct links:

One important note here - if you have any Visual Studio 2005 beta1 products installed, you will need to uninstall them before you install this community tech preview.  Setup will not block you, but it will fail if you don't uninstall VS 2005 beta1 first (including all pieces of VS - the .NET Framework, MSDN, SQL Express, etc).

I know that a lot of you tried out the beta1 version using the automatic downloader and there has been a lot of frustration and failed installs resulting from that.  The VS setup team has done a lot of work to make the downloader more bulletproof and provide better progress indications, etc.  I encourage you all to give it a try and send any feedback you have back to Microsoft.  If you send it to me I'll be happy to route it on to the setup team (my former team).  You can also log bugs and suggestions on the MSDN feedback site at http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/default.aspx.

Also, since this is a community tech preview and not a full-fledged beta, there are some known issues that were not fixed in time for this release.  You can find that list at http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/readme/cptreadme1004/default.aspx

 

 

  • Having C# Express crash when I clicked on the File menu probably isn't a good thing. It also crashed during the install, had to try about three times until it worked.

    No offense, but I think I'll wait until Beta 2 :-)
  • am i see it correctly, that from the msdn.microsoft.com/express site are still the normal beta1 versions available?
  • To address the first comment, when you saw C# crash in the IDE and during setup, did you report the problem back to Microsoft? If so, we can look up your problem report on the server side and try to track down the root cause.

    For the crash during setup in particular, could you give us some more details about when during setup it happened? Was it during download or during installation? Do you remember what the error message said?

    To address the 2nd comment, the top of the msdn.microsoft.com/express site is still pointing to the normal beta1 versions. However, if you scroll down on each version's details page and look at the Express Headlines section, there is a link for the October 2004 Community Technology Preview.
  • I'd like to back up ShadowChaser's comment. C# express is _much_ less stable than the May release. So far, I've not been able to use it for more than 2 minutes before it either crashes or starts using 60% CPU for no reason.

    And to pre-empt your question, yes I'm submitting watson reports and creating Product Feedback issues.

    I'm seriously considering reverting to the May release. I reckon I only ever saw MayCTP crash twice in a couple of weeks heavy use. Failing that, I may learn about the beauty of MSBuild and develop in Notepad...

    I've also been unable to get either C# Express or VWD to save configuration data (ie toolbar visibility or Tools->Options data). I'm waiting to see if I can find out more information before I file a report.
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