Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

Brian Harry MS — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:15:35 GMT

I have blogged a few minor issues in my blog posts on TFS 2008 features and compatibility. However, none of them are serious (of course, that can always be in the eye of the beholder). If you could list some examples of issues you are seeing, I might be able to help you.

Brian

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

Andy — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:23:23 GMT

Is there a list of known issues anywhere pertaining to the use of VSTS 2008 with TFS 2005? My team is trying to use these together and has run into some pretty serious problems. Thanks.

-Andy

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

Pam — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:37:33 GMT

Wow! Thanks for the lightning fast response! Much appreciated...

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

Brian Harry MS — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:36:31 GMT

You will need to install Team Explorer 2005 to get client integration with your VS 2005 IDE. Team Explorer 2005 will work with the TFS 2008 server just fine.

Brian

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

Pam — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:33:00 GMT

Brian,

Our team is installing TFS Beta 2--mostly for the purpose of evaluating source control and process stuff. However, I'd like to be able to continue to use VS2005 as my development platform.

We've installed the server component, and I've installed the Client components on my development machine. Is there a way that I can access the TFS 2008 tool from within my VS2005 IDE? (I.e., How do I get the "Connect to team foundation server" item on my tools menu?)

Thanks,

Pam

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

Brian Harry MS — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:41:20 GMT

1) Yes, you will need to install Team Explorer 2008. It is required to integrate with VS 2008. It will work with either a TFS 2005 or TFS 2008 server.

2) Generally, that's right. There's only two things to be mindful of. Don't use TE 2008 to edit your checkin policies because after you do, they won't be editable in TE 2005. And don't use TE 2008 and edit your build definitions because that will cause some limitations for TE 2005. Other than that, there should be no issues whatsoever.

Brian

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

Rupak Ganguly — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:10:04 GMT

Brian,

We have a TFS 2005 which we connect via Team Explorer 2005 and VS 2005. Now, we have installed VS2008 Beta 2 on some machines to evaluate it. The VS2008 installed side-by-side with a hitch. Now, I want to connect to TFS 2005 from my VS 2008. Here is what I want to know:

1. Since I already have Team Explorer 2005 installed and can connect to my TFS 2005 via VS 2005 Team Suite, do I need to install Team Explorer 2008 to be able to connect to the same TFS 2005 via VS 2008 Team Suite?

2. Connecting to TFS 2005 with Team Explorer 2008 via VS 2008 will not chnage anything in the TFS 2005 that might jeopardize my development setup or source code in my real world of VS2005 environment?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

James — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:46:20 GMT

Ah, I figured it was something like that. I notice the TFC setup directory is 600 MB; ouch! I hope you can squeeze it on (and hopefully include a link in the autorun.exe so people realize it's there). Thanks for your reply and effort in improving this!

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

Brian Harry MS — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:04:30 GMT

You ask a good question and I wish I had a better answer. It starts with some history. TFS 2005 originally shipped at a different time than VSTS 2005 (it was about 3-4 months late). That's why it wasn't originally included in the VSTS client SKUs.

In VSTS 2008 TFS will be shipping at the same time and we originally intended to combine the setups. Unfortunately, when we costed all of the work we needed to do, it didn't fit so we had to cut it. At that time status quo kicked in and we left things the way they were.

The TFC setup has to be on the TFS disk because you can purchase TFS and CALs and use TFS without buying VSTS client SKUs. However, there's no reason we couldn't drop the TFS client onto the DVD with the VSTS role SKUs. The only problem might be the amount of space on the DVDs.

I've just kicked off a thread to discuss the possibility of including it on the disk. We'll see where that goes.

Thanks,

Brian

re: Upgrading to Orcas Beta 2

James — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:28:58 GMT

Why is the TFS plugin not included on the "Team System" "Team Suite" DVD? The nomenclature is highly confusing.