U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

re: U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

Ian Easson — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:43:17 GMT

Well, Anonymous Coward, you seem to have copied and pasted your comment from Doug Mahugh's blog.

That being the case, I think it is only fair that I copy and paste his response there to you:

"Well, Anonymous, I'm not sure you're going to find many people, in V1 or the EB or anywhere else, who agree with the "perspective" you're providing here.

The vote in V1 on Friday was overwhelmingly lopsided. Let's just say that it was a lot more than Microsoft and Microsoft partners on the Approve side, and many more than the 12 you mention, including people who voted against DIS 29500 last summer. As for "since they joined V1 last summer" I'll just say that half the votes in IBM's block came from the very last organizations to join V1 last summer, period.

As for the balance of the EB being reflected in how they picked the US delegation, many have noticed that after the EB picked a "neutral" HoD (in their second attempt), that HoD was then the lead cheerleader for the anti-DIS 29500 crowd in the days after the BRM, being quoted on the home page of NOOOXML.ORG and similar sites. Does that make the EB look "balanced"? The public will have to decide on that."

re: U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

Anonymous Coward — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:18:34 GMT

Not links to V1/INCITS principles but some background information from the blogosphere:

The thing to remember is that the US decision is not made by V1. It is made by the INCITS Executive Board (EB), and they have until March 26th to make their decision.

V1, the technical committee, has been heavily stuffed with Microsoft business partners and the 12 of them comprise over half of the committee. Combined they submitted zero technical comments on OOXML. They have voted as a bloc on every technical and procedural vote since they joined V1 last summer.

Luckily, the EB is more balanced. They are the ones, for example, that picked the US BRM delegation. So, the EB decision will be the important one.

re: U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

Open process for Office Open...please? — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:02:33 GMT

Hi, Please provide links to the V1, INCITS, and ANSI documents that show the bylaws, principles, and guidelines that provide the authority and criteria used to make determinations about a proposed standard on behalf of the citizens of the USA.

Thank you.

re: U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

hAl — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:08:46 GMT

@someone

The compatibility pack used XML features not present in Windows 9x/ME.

So for the compatiblity pack to work they should upgrade an unsupprted windows version. That is not going to happen.

So upgrade, like everybody else has (Windows ME currently has market share of 0.02%).

[Open XML] Les Etats Unis devraient confirmer le 'OUI' pour un "Open XML ISO"

Blog de Julien Chable (Neodante) — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:57:09 GMT

Doug Mahugh - relayé par Brian Jones - confirme dans son post que le National Body américain, l'INCITS,

re: U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

anony.muos — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:57:32 GMT

Hey on my older comp, I use Office XP on Windows Me. Now I *know* that Windows Me support has ended, but if can't MS make available an unsupported version of the compatibility pack that works on Windows 98 SE and Me? My temporary solution so far is installing Novell OpenOffice which can save files are OOXML but users of older versions of Office (as old as Office 2000) are also likely to run older Windows versions, can't MS please release a compatibility pack for 9x? I really want to save from Office XP as OOXML.

re: U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

USA hater — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:39:33 GMT

I confess that I am not surprised... If USA people can vote in Bush for president, approve Iraq fake war and think that Bii Gates is a genius then the OOXML approvation is a natural conclusion.

re: U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

andy — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:37:58 GMT

What a shame. To be proud of the recommendations of committee your company turned into drones...

re: U.S. TC will approve Open XML as an ISO standard

funnybroad — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:50:24 GMT

Here's what I don't understand about you people at Microsoft: Why are you funneling your energies (and I'm sure MILLION$ of dollars) into this whole ISO certification mess, when you should be funneling that money into fixing the way your own products are impossibly complicated using those new OOXML formats? Here's a glaring example:

http://dearmicrosoftofficeteam.blogspot.com/2008/03/excel-pivot-table-compatibility.html