At the Intersection of PHP and Microsoft
This morning I came across this article on PHPDeveloper.org: Blast from the Past – One Year Ago in PHP. That brief look into the past got me to thinking about what Microsoft has done lately toward PHP interoperability. (By “lately”, I mean in the last few years.) And, I’ve been working on a presentation for TechEd in Berlin next month that will, in part, provide a brief overview of Microsoft’s efforts toward PHP interoperability and support. So, I thought I’d share a bit of that summary here…
And that really just covers the highlights. I haven’t mentioned all of the community-contributed projects on CodePlex.com, the many PHP applications that have added or are adding SQL Server support, or the work that I know is in progress but can’t talk about yet. :-(
Do we still have work to do? Absolutely. Lots of work. But I like the trajectory and the momentum. What do you think? Are we heading in the right direction? Why or why not? I’d love to hear others’ perceptions of the recent history of PHP-Microsoft interoperability and thoughts about future direction.
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PHP on Windows has come so far! Thank you to everyone who has helped this effort. WebPI and SQLSrv are fantastic and I've just started playing with the PHP Manager which is looking good so far.
I can now sell PHP solutions to my MS-centric clients confident that PHP will work great and my client's IT depts are happy that PHP is going to work well. I've said this before, but this effort has opened up new markets to my company and we've sold PHP to places where Java was the original choice.
I'm looking forward to seeing where we go!
I started my current job about 3 years ago, just about where your timeline begins - it marked the first time I'd used PHP on Windows and I found it something of a chore! Back then we were quite limited with what we could achieve with Windows because, as you said, support for PHP in the Microsoft stack was lacking.
Trying to develop a cross-platform application that performed equally in both *nix and Windows environments was a major challenge that usually required a lot of ifs(), elses() and why????()s, whereas nowadays I've found much less environment-specific code needs to be written. Makes development quicker and a lot less stressful!
I agree that the way things are headed is great. I like the PI but find it's not suited to the way I work - I'd like greater control over which version of PHP is installed, with maybe the ability to run a few different versions side by side or at least switch easily between them - I have to use 4 (uurgh), 5.2.x and now 5.3. (I haven't tried the PI in a while, so apologies if this is now possible!).
What are the chances of Microsoft becoming involved with PECL and providing some resource for the automated building of DLLs for those extensions? The more common extensions are thankfully supported at Pierre's website but innovation on Windows is hampered because while I can build the less common extensions from source, I can't guarantee others can which makes using them a risk.
Have to say that I and the others I work with are most grateful for the recent improvements, and hope that they continue!
@Rob: That's great to hear! Good to know our efforts are making things better for folks.
@Craig: Also great to hear! As far as the Web PI goes, the lack of multiple PHP versions is clearly a shortcoming. I know that the Web PI team is aware of this and hopes to have multi-version support eventually...I just don't know when (although I don't think they have plans to support PHP 4...how important is that for you?).
Regarding MS providing a resouce for automated building of PECL extensions...quite honestly, I don't know. However, you are not the first person to request/suggest such a resource. Personally, I think it's a great idea, and the more we hear that folks want this, the more likely it is to happen. I'll keep on it.
That's good to hear (multiple PHP versions) - if I were them I wouldn't want to add support for 4 either! Better to encourage people to move to 5. Thankfully I don't have to use 4 much these days, I'd be happy to run it in a VM and have a better PHP5 experience through the PI. PECL support would be fab, please do!
Nice post Brian. I've been using PHP on IIS since around 2002, and I have to say the release of the FastCGI and WinCache modules by Microsoft were massive for what I was doing. The release of the SQL driver for PHP was no less significant, just that most of the PHP apps I maintain are MySQL based. Prior to 2006 there were still options other than CGI. Shane Caraveo and others did a lot of work here going way back to the late 90's and I actually used his PHP FastCGI module with PHP 4 and Turck mmcache for 4 years before the Microsoft FastCGI module was released. Not as robust or scalable as the module Microsoft has evolved into, but certainly head and shoulders better than using CGI or even the ISAPI modules.
Thanks, Dominic. After reading your comments and your blog post (www.iis-aid.com/.../looking_back_php_iis) I realized I didn't paint (or even know) the complete picture. Thanks for sharing.