Brian Keller

Director of ALM Evangelism for Microsoft

An Intense Lunch

An Intense Lunch

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Recently I submitted two pieces of feedback to the MSDN Help team. Then I second guessed myself as to whether other customers feel the same way I do. So, I propose my feedback and you can tell me what you think.

1) I feel that it's very difficult for a “green field” .NET developer to find the right help topics. Let's say I migrate 100% to Visual Basic .NET. Or assume that I'm starting out as a pro dev and begin with Visual Basic .NET (or any language for that matter). I install all of the MSDN Help like I think I'm supposed to. Then I go to the Help topic to learn my dims from my redims and I type in "Visual Basic". Whelp, low and behold here comes a blast from the past with everything from what I want (Visual Basic .NET) to what I don't (previous versions of Visual Basic, which are notably different). Suggestion: Make it easy to exclude legacy versions, or "interview me" based on what types of development I'll be doing.

2) Elimate the "Stones Way" series (and anything else along those lines). I mean, seriously... enter "stupid" into an MSDN Library search and it's the first hit you get. Now this is the one that really made me second-guess myself. I went to the online MSDN Library collection and they were rated extremely high! 7, 8 out of 9 with a right-weighted distribution. Huh? Well, I guess customers actually like this material then.

Here's the Stones Way article: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnstone/html/stone05092000.asp?frame=true

So you tell me. Good ideas? Bad ideas? I promise to pass anything I get on to the MSDN Help team (unless you tell me not to).

  • The help in VS .NET is indescribably lame. I want to go from a class overview to a tutorial on how to use the class in a solution. Is there s link? Very hard to find. Lame Lame Lame
  • I just replied in http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/mlevison/archive/2004/03/26/10104.aspx
  • Thanks, Mark! I'm glad you feel the same way I did about the Stone's Way stuff. <g> You have some great suggestions and I'll be sure to pass those along to the Help team.
  • A solid example PenType.HatchFill and PenType.TextureFill - there are no examples of these in the docs, Petzold or Google (expcet for a few cryptic Mono code fragments).
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