The MSDN Camp vs. The Raymond Chen Camp

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re: The MSDN Camp vs. The Raymond Chen Camp

barry.b — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 02:22:00 GMT

>> The patterns repeats itself in the actions of other product teams and divisions at Microsoft.

so what is being done to address this? where is the overall quality control that provides the consistancy? what process is reconciling the "great race forward" Vs backwards compatability?

totally re-writing ASP to ASP.NET is one case in point*. For me, I've not bothered to upgrade from win2k server and Office 2002 - there's nothing new for me. And I've given up on ASP in favour of MACR's ColdFusion MX - because it's just as fast to develop in AND CAN RUN ON LINUX (and OSX).

(*to illustrate the point, CF5 code can be run on CFMX systems without change, and can have CFMX extentions added to it without any pain whatsoever. try that in an aspx page!)

re: The MSDN Camp vs. The Raymond Chen Camp

B. Jones — Tue, 14 Sep 2004 05:55:00 GMT

I get very tired of Microsoft making us rewrite everything. Case in point, the news that DirectX will be discontinued for the latest and greatest thing in Longhorn. They did this before, after dropping DirectX Retained Mode without so much as a whimper. Anyone unlucky enough to have used it (like us) had to rewrite everything, and no shell layer would do, we had to redo *everything*. And now the whole DirectX? This time we'll rewrite it... in OpenGL. Because we know if we rewrite it in any Microsoft API we'll be rewriting it again in a few years.

Microsoft need to realise the Win32 API *is* their leverage. And if they make life too hard for those developers who use it (instead of writing for the web) they'll drive us all off.

re: The MSDN Camp vs. The Raymond Chen Camp

Gary Kenward — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:08:00 GMT

The market, as much as the integrity of people like Dare are pushing MS towards supporting developers better. Witness the recent announcement concerning MS opening up Windows CE. Customer support has never been MS' strength, and Dare's observation about focussing on innovation over refinement speaks volumes.

Many enterprises have simply stopped upgrading to the latest and greatest IS product, regardless of the vendor. This trend has impacted the software industry the most, as upgrades (or even new versions) are a major portion of the revenue stream.

Oh, and btw, it has nothing to do with open-source. As far as I am concerned, MS support for customers is at least as good as open-source support. The only difference being that with open-source you have the illusion of being able to dig into the code and fix it yourself.

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