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What's at stake?

Doug Mahugh - Office Interoperability
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What's at stake?

Doug Mahugh
24 Mar 2008 3:25 PM
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As we near the end of the standards process for DIS29500, the final positions of various countries are starting to become known. In the last week we've seen several countries announce their final positions, including the Approve position from the United States as submitted by the INCITS executive board.

One thing that gets lost in the debate sometimes is the core question of what's at stake. Who wins or loses if Open XML becomes an ISO/IEC standard? I've heard several perspectives on that lately which I've found interesting.

One perspective came out in a conversation I had a couple weeks ago with Pierre De Muelenaere, the CEO of I.R.I.S. They've recently announced Open XML support (see Stephen McGibbon's post for details), and I was asking him about how they look at document formats in general, and how Open XML fits in to their lineup of supported formats.

Pierre explained to me that they support 75 document formats currently, including Open XML and ODF. So from his point of view, the existence of an Open XML standard or an ODF standard adds one more format to the dozens they support, and nothing more. It was a simple high-level perspective that's easy to miss when you're buried in the details of one particular format: Open XML is just one of many document formats in use today.

Another perspective is expressed in Patrick Durusau's latest posting on his web site, "Who Loses If Open XML Loses?" In Patrick's words, "As the editor of OpenDocument, I want to promote OpenDocument, extol its features, urge the widest use of it as possible, none of which is accomplished by the anti-OpenXML position in ISO. Passage of OpenXML in ISO is going to benefit OpenDocument as much as anyone else."

Chris Capossela recently posted an open letter outlining Microsoft's position on what's at stake, based on the feedback we hear from customers and partners. It's worth a close read, and one thing that is clearly covered is Microsoft's commitment to supporting the Open XML standard: "We've listened to the global community and learned a lot, and we are committed to supporting the Open XML specification that is approved by ISO/IEC in our products."

One of the benefits of Open XML that Chris's open letter covers is custom XML. This is a key benefit of the Open XML formats, and there has been some interesting debate lately about what it is, how it works, and what the benefits are for Open XML users. Se Wouter Van Vugt's blog for more on the technical discussion.

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  • Anonymous Coward
    25 Mar 2008 6:50 AM

    If I may, please let me provide a link to the other side of the story:

    http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/03/five-bad-reasons-to-approve-ooxml.html

    I tend to think that nobody loses anything if we stop the Fast Track, use the normal procedures, and perhaps get the ISO label few years later.

  • Ian Easson
    25 Mar 2008 1:56 PM

    Mr. Coward,

    The "normal procedure" after something starts on a fast track is to continue it to success or failure.  There is no procedure (that I have ever heard of) of "stopping" a fast track once begun.

    As always, I am open to correction.  I do not claim omniscience.

  • Bill Johnson
    25 Mar 2008 2:04 PM

    Who wins or loses if Open XML becomes an ISO/IEC standard?

    Winners:  IBM, Oracle, Sun

    Loser: Microsoft

  • Jacky
    25 Mar 2008 4:33 PM

    Who wins or loses if Open XML fails to become an ISO/IEC standard?

    Winners: Consumers, Open Source & Linux, IBM, Oracle, Sun

    Loser: Microsoft

  • The Open Sourcerer
    25 Mar 2008 7:31 PM

    Who wins or loses if Open XML fails to become an ISO/IEC standard?

    If the disaster that is ECMA-376 becomes an ISO/IEC standard, there will ONLY be one winner. And guess who that is.... I'll help. It aint you, or me or Microsoft's partners or the rest of the free world.

    The winner will be the world's largest and most abusive monopoly.

    PS - We had some fun with your Malaysian Trip... http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/03/25/trussst-in-microssssoft/

  • Andre
    26 Mar 2008 2:40 PM

    Who loses if OOXML gets approved:

    standard bodies, Microsoft partners, Microsoft

    Who wins if OOXML gets approved:

    OOXML, Microsoft

    Who loses if OOXML gets disapproved:

    Microsoft

    Who wins if OOXML gets disapproved

    Consumers, IBM, competitors, ODF, Standard bodies, Open Standards, Microsoft partners

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