VS2010: How to use the Parallel Performance Analysis Tools

re: VS2010: How to use the Parallel Performance Analysis Tools

_HShafi_ — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:57:22 GMT

Hi John,

Apologies for not posting for a while; busy with Supercomputing and other deadlines. I'm working on something soon though.

I just tried the context menu (right clicking) on the performance session item and Attach/Detach is enabled (I'm running Beta 2 Ultimate). I'll need more information to see if I can repro it on my end. The paperclip button often doesn't show up if the width of the Performance Explorer window is too narrow. You can either widen it or you can click on the tiny button in the top right corner (far right of the toolbar) of the window with the up/down arrows to see it. This is an annoying artifact when the toolbar items don't fit. I doubt that we'll fix this at this point of the development cycle. For attach to work properly, make sure that the current performance session is set up for the correct profiling option.

Let me know if this helps.

-Hazim

re: VS2010: How to use the Parallel Performance Analysis Tools

John — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:57:02 GMT

Hshafi,

A long time since last post, :)

I don't mean the button with the paper clip in the menu "Profiler\Attach/Detach". Instead, I mean when you right-click mouse in Performance Explorer on a Performance item, there is a "Attach/detach" menu in the pop-up menu. It is disabled.

I don't know what the reason is. In addition, I didn't find the paper clip button in Performance Explorer.

If you can elaborate such a topic, that would be very nice. :)

re: VS2010: How to use the Parallel Performance Analysis Tools

_HShafi_ — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:32:12 GMT

Hi John,

When you say that the attach item is disabled, are you saying that the button with the paper clip in the Performance Explorer window is disabled (see screenshot in the post). The attach scenario is really important and is supporting specifically to deal with situations such as yours. I believe that it was functional in Beta 1. Perhaps I need to elaborate on its usage?

Attach is not supported when performing concurrency profiling?

John — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:49:30 GMT

Hshafi,

My application has a backend exe COM server. Now I want to perform concurrency profiling for it. But I found the Attach item is disabled. So Attach is not supported when performing concurrency profiling? What's the reason behind?

For me, this exe cannot be launched directly. So we used to launch it from our other frondend application and then attach it and begin debugging or profiling. Now can we use the same procedure?

re: VS2010: How to use the Parallel Performance Analysis Tools

_HShafi_ — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:23:37 GMT

There's a good blog by Rick Molloy that'll provide you with better help with parallel programming in C/C++: http://www.parallelroads.com/blog

I would suggest starting with Rick first.

-Hazim

re: VS2010: How to use the Parallel Performance Analysis Tools

John — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:34:10 GMT

So, Hshafi, could you tell me you email so that I can get more help from you in the near future? My email is: zpf7879@126.com, please send one email to that. Thanks!

John

re: VS2010: How to use the Parallel Performance Analysis Tools

_HShafi_ — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:52:19 GMT

John,

Thanks for your email. There's a significant amount of work being done by our team to make it easier to express parallelism efficiently. You should definitely take a look at our Concurrency Runtime, Asynchronous Agents, and Parallel Pattern Library work for native code. For managed, you should take a look at the Task Parallel Library effort. We gave a series of talks at PDC2008 that should give you a very good idea about the new programming models and tools. The talks are archived at http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/pdc2008/tags/Parallelism/ and you should take some time to go over those. Also, you should use the VS2010 Beta 1 to familiarize yourself with the tools and programming models. If you want to start using these for production, in the past we have given a go live approval prior to release to market. For example, developers were able to use VS2005 Beta 2 to go live. I don't know what the plans are for VS2010, but you should keep this in mind when weighing your options. Let me know if you need more help.

How to choose parallel platform

John — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:50:04 GMT

Hshafi,

I've a question which is not directly related to your blog. But I just want to get some valuable information from you.

I'm in charge of parallelizing a ready big application, which is written in COM framework. Since my company has a close parternship with MS, we always first choose MS tools first. But for parallel programming, it looks MS hasn't provided a good suite. Our OS is WinXP, and Visual Studio is 2008. In the forseeable future, we will not change them.

So I'm facing a embrassing place: VS2010 is a little far than touch, but currently it seems no good support from MS. Currently, I'm just using OpenMP in VS2008, but I haven't got a good tool suite, e.g. profiling, data race checker, etc.

Do you have any good idea? Is OpenMP is my only choice in this situation? Are there any other MS tools that I don't know.

Thanks!

re: VS2010: How to use the Parallel Performance Analysis Tools

_HShafi_ — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:16:58 GMT

Unfortunately, it is technically impossible for us to provide our tool's feature set on Windows XP. We would've really liked to do that.

Can I use 'Collect thread execution data' in WinXP

John — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:56:35 GMT

Hshafi,

Related to your last message, is that possible I can somehow use 'Collect thread execution data' in WinXP? Will you provide this functionality in the near future, or you just never support WinXP?