In this post, I want to share some examples of the progress going on in the SVG Working Group. Microsoft recently joined the SVG Working Group, and other members (Mozilla, Apple and Opera among others) welcomed us warmly. I'm hopeful about the ways that SVG (both its current direction and future potential) could make the web better. We want the spec to be clear, consistent, and predictable for developers. We’re working out ambiguities such as “Pointer events and clip-paths”, “CSS Selectors <use> and as well as inconsistencies with stroked-dasharray” and “<use> and its interaction with the DOM and rendering” so that web developers can write SVG once and know that it will be interoperable across browsers.
I have to admit I was a little hesitant at first to get guidance and clarity on a dozen or so items we found to be ambiguous (see public SVG WG discussion threads), however the positive response has been overwhelming. Of course we are not the only members raising these issues, but we are happy to be a part of the process. The future of SVG is bright.
Additionally, Microsoft looks forward to hosting the next SVG Working Group face-to-face meeting in Brussels this May.
A special thanks to those on the Working Group for their warm welcome and shared goals of creating a specification that will promote standards based interoperable graphics for the web.
Patrick Dengler Senior Program Manager Internet Explorer Team
Please stop being vague.
Is SVG going to be in IE9 or not?!
Without promising, I think the amount of talk about it is a clear enough sign. Considering IE has VML already, and MS Word has MathML already, I think it will be doable to have SVG and MathML ready by the time IE9 ships. Throw in some CSS3 and some GPU based web page acceleration, and I think developers will be happy. Well, not until they kill IE6.
Please improve the very slow developer tools. Or open source at least that part.
Oh, and extension writing via COM objects is so Windows98...
unrelated but still....where does one post bug reports?
this link :
http://www.izklop.com/link_enc.php?id=59195
freezes internet explorer 8 every bloody time...on Windows z (x64) and windows 2008.
Other browsers have no problem with it.
I'm actually going to switch JUST because of this problem...and the fact that i can't seem to find a bug report page :)
@hmmmm
Am using Win 7 x64 and IE8 and not getting any lockup with that link. Its open in another tab right now and is scrollable and its links are clickable.
I'd suggest you have plugin issues rather than it being a generic IE 8 problem.
SVG Support , Canvas Support and addEventHandler
or
UPRISING......
@Steve Roussey
MS Word uses OMML for math. That is a new math xml markup format that can be mixed with other office (layout) xml markup unlike MathML (and SVG) which cannot be mixed.
MS Office only contains indirect MathML support. The OMML used by MS Office can be transformed into MathML using XLS Transformations (XLST). The layout markup that was mixed in is then lost.
It is so nice that Microsoft joined the SVG group, but quite frankly, what took so long? And when will we see SVG support in IE?
Is the "lets release a major version every couple of years" really the best philosophy to develop a browser nowadays? Wouldn't it be better to have a component based browser where you can ship small updates and new features more frequently without breaking the entire beast?
Great stuff! I'm particular pleased that you're concentrating on SVG use cases for building graphically rich web apps. Really looking forward to what IE9, and other browsers, deliver in this area. Keep up the good work Patrick!
Guys i think Canvas is also the future, make your decisions wisely so don't left behind.
You just know the other members couldn't hold in their snickering.
I can confirm @hmmm's problem. I am using Internet Explorer 8 on Windows Vista x64, and it freezes. I have even tried it using No Add-ons mode found in the System Tools folder.
currently the the experince really does suck across browsers example i used to play a game called hullbreach online which was based on opera canvas tried it on songbird(ff) didnt work so i gave up
Every canvas/svg use i've ever seen is CPU intensive garbage. Whatever it takes to make that change, do that. Or maybe we just shouldn't be using them. I don't want illustrator like functionality gobbling up cycles in my browser. Keep it simple.
Thank you for sharing your workgroup experiences.
Do you have some public schedule regarding IE SVG support? Can't wait to see some SVG code working in IE.
flash is one of those other cpu entensive apps that should dissappear