IE Diagnostics

re: IE Diagnostics

EricLaw [MSFT] — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:37:39 GMT

@John: The Internet Explorer Platform Preview does not include an updated version of MSHTA.exe, which is used to render HTML Application (HTA) files. Hence, if you open a HTA file in the Platform Preview, it runs as if it were a normal (low trust) Internet Page instead of a local HTML Application (higher trust). You will not be able to test your HTA with IE9 until the IE9 beta is available.

re: IE Diagnostics

John Jin — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:43:04 GMT

Actually I saw one error like this: ( when I open hta with IE9),

Error: Number:-2146828237 Description:Internal error

re: IE Diagnostics

John Jin — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:39:43 GMT

We have a HTA software works under IE8,

But not in IE9

When I look into details, under IE9 (HTA), xmldom.save(xmlfile) not working, without any error message.

re: IE Diagnostics

suc — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:23:29 GMT

yet another crash:

Prodotto

Internet Explorer

Problema

Ha smesso di funzionare

Data

09/06/2010 16.09

Stato

Segnalazione inviata

Firma del problema

Nome evento problema: APPCRASH

Nome applicazione: iexplore.exe

Versione applicazione: 8.0.6001.18928

Timestamp applicazione: 4bdfa327

Nome modulo con errori: mshtml.dll

Versione modulo con errori: 8.0.6001.18928

Timestamp modulo con errori: 4bdfb76d

Codice eccezione: c0000005

Offset eccezione: 000697d7

Versione SO: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3

ID impostazioni locali: 1040

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Ulteriori informazioni 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

Ulteriori informazioni 3: fd00

Ulteriori informazioni 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

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re: IE Diagnostics

Matt — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:04:29 GMT

Keith: "OS-like" is a good non-technical explanation of ie. If you had a technical background in operating systems, you would call it "Not-OS-Like" since its implementation doesn't contain any of the core primitives used in operating systems.

Gazelle attempts to impose OS concepts when running web content (not plugins) but it's an academic project which will never actually result in a released project as it is utterly impractical and incompatible with the web as it exists. It is sad but not unexpected that the lazy press never seems to figure out that the papers from MSR aren't any indication of microsoft's future plans.

re: IE Diagnostics

Keith Patrick — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:57:13 GMT

IE provides OS-like services, so in many ways it is an operating system (it hosts external code, it provides memory to these external modules, it attempts to protect one from affecting the other). IIRC, Microsoft Research is working on a browser project that is designed more like an OS - Gazelle; hopefully, designing the browser as such at its gut level will help bring the browser stability up to OS quality. It still doesn't let Adobe off the hook for writing what has been really a horrible and undeservedly ubiquitous plug-in, but it should be easier for MS to harden their browser than for the millions of web pages out there to quit serving up Flash-based UIs or ads.

re: IE Diagnostics

Matt — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:50:07 GMT

Keith: Correct, IE is an application, not an operating system. Very astute point.

re: IE Diagnostics

Keith Patrick — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:44:51 GMT

I too find some humor in using Flash as an example of reporting IE crashes, given a) how frequently IE crashes (IE8 on Win7 has been scary-unstable...crashes every hour on a fresh installation), and b) how ubiquitous Flash is. The simple "solution" is to, of course, disable Flash, but then what? Even with HTML5, a VERY large chunk of the web is rendered unusable by doing this. IMO, a much better option than telling me what crashed (and even better than restoring my crashed tab) is to make the host (IE) more resilient to its bad guests. Win3.1 crashed all the time due to bad application authors not properly cleaning up memory, but it was still the responsibility of the OS not to crash.

re: IE Diagnostics

Wurst — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:38:27 GMT

The screenshots are PNG this time, that's nice, but it would be even nicer if they were created using Window Clippings (a screenshot tool by a fellow colleague) and well compressed using OptiPNG and/or PNGOUT.

re: IE Diagnostics

Neil Dunensach — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:19:12 GMT

@Matt - no because I'm really Steve Jobs.