Hang Resistance in IE9

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

Zkal — Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:56:01 GMT

Having tested crashie8.com (nonjs version saved on local computer) on multiple browsers, it indeed does crash IE9 only due to a missing </form>. Could claim that the site coding should be fixed but let's be honest, a browser shouldn't crash if a site forgets a tag. So can safely admit I was wrong and the site in question isn't doing any browser based detection.

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

Eric Caron is a Scammer — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:56:57 GMT

I saved crashie8.com/index-nojs.html to my local disk, because I don't trust your server-side manipulations.

Then I opened index-nojs.html in Internet Explorer 9. Guess what? IE9 didn't crash at all. I can even Right-Click,View Source that page.

Conclusion: This proves all the more that crashie8.com server switches code depending on what browser it detects.

@IE Team: Please provide a way to pause script execution, so that it's easier to catch misleading/deceptive websites like the one above.

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

Brian Forgrave — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:32:51 GMT

Playing Yahoo Cards with Internet 9, when you have the window: ( page of score or last tricks ) If you try to close the temp window from top of screen ) It will freeze the page for a few seconds. But if you close the java scrips from taskbar, then they will close correctly. If a fix for this problem is to be, it will be from routing the web-pages threw the taskbar. Good luck with fixing this problem Microsoft. Windows 7 is very cool, it rocks. I ever build my next gaming pc, it will be running Ultimate 64-bit or better if it comes along.

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

rotterdarned — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:13:24 GMT

This is a Microsoft web page, so it's styled in a Microsoft fashion. Why some folks seem so appalled by this style, under the circumstances, is most peculiar to me - what do these folks expect? A Microsoft whose style instills confidence by any other primary method than FUD? An IE that comes to the world? No, such change would be asking too much in a single browser version's upwards move - IE9 remains a browser that expects the world to come to and revolve around it.

But maybe with good reason ... . Along with other major browsers that are built as core to their operating systems, Internet Explorer rounds out the Big Five in market share. It remains number one in share and will do so, as long as Windows remains the dominant system.

Most commenters seem generally pleased with IE9's advances over previous versions of the browser, although there is healthy debate regarding IE9's number one standing according to the parameters described in Herman Ng's article on "Hang Resistance." One gets the impression that Microsoft and the third party software developers that produce to suit the Windows system hold Internet Explorer to a higher standard than others hold the other big four browsers. Because IE powers the web activity of the world's dominant operating system, a higher standard actually would make sense. Where the disagreements arise is on what features comprise a standard that is "highest": speed, stability, resistance to hangs / crashes, etc?

Anyone familiar even with the stable versions of Chrome knows and doesn't seem particularly concerned that they'll experience a higher frequency of browser crashes than they'd experienced with the other four historically. Then again, to their credit, Google's Chrome calls a crash a crash, whereas Internet Explorer still refuses such blunt verbiage and prefers to seek answers in a Windows system that take forever to find - and rarely finds such answers. The delicate term "Hang Resisitance" has been broken out into four causes, including the trickiest "Plug-In Hangs."

The problem with such terminology is that one developer's plug-in is another developer's add-on and / or script and / or (out-of-date) web page. But, when IE finds a page to be out-of-date in this context, Microsoft is really saying that the page's developer has not come to IE, has decided that the world shouldn't revolve around IE and has elected a different standard of browser than IE to be "higher."

The case can be made that Google is behaving most aggressively in optimizing their browser's speed because they can afford to do so - Chrome remains independent of any particular operating system and, while it's working toward powering what will be Google's eventual OS for the Workstation / Desktop / Notebook powered by a multicore CPU and GPU arrangement (currently, at least) , Chrome's not there yet - it's still not core to any operating system. Google realizes this better than anybody, so they're making hay while while the sun shines. We can be fairly certain that, when Google finds Chrome to be truly ready for primetime, their proprietary, high-powered OS will follow shortly thereafer. It'll be fascinating to see if Google maintains such an aggressive pace for the development of their browser at that time.

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

Please Don't — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:49:58 GMT

@ieblog - I followed the steps suggested - There is no option for "Choose how to report problems". Only a list of the apps that have crashed before.

As for a Windows wide setting, - YES! this is exactly what EVERYONE wants.

Actually I found the option, you need to search for "Choose" in the top-right search, then the option becomes available.

Once there you have to choose the option for don't check (the one that isn't recommended)!

Oh boy Microsoft, you have so much to learn.

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

Pfurz — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:46:36 GMT

This article makes it sound like Microsoft solved the halting problem…

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

Maximilian Haru Raditya — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:25:05 GMT

IE9 might have better hang resistence handling. However, I notice something wrong with frame message queue behavior as it might still cause inresponsive UI experience in IE.

IE should have better UI experience without unresponsiveness. Take a look at my IE9 RTM performance issue in multiple tabs report here: connect.microsoft.com/.../ie9-rtm-all-in-one-performance-issues

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

Eric Caron — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:15:48 GMT

Here's a javascript-free version: crashie8.com/index-nojs.html

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

Zkal — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:17:20 GMT

@Eric Caron: Sure, the HTML is identical. The Javascript however isn't which is proven by the fact that when you make other browsers to pretend to be Internet Explorer, they'll crash too.

re: Hang Resistance in IE9

ieblog — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 02:31:57 GMT

@Please Don't: You asked, "Is there a way to turn this off completely?" Yes, there is.

Using the search box in the start menu search for "problem reports". One of the search results will be "Choose how to report problems". Select that item which brings you to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Action Center\Problem Reporting Settings. From there, you can choose to "Never check for solutions." Note that this is Windows-wide setting.