IE Feedback: Looking Back, Forging Ahead

re: IE Feedback: Looking Back, Forging Ahead

guttersnipe — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:54:38 GMT

since upgrading to ie 9, i have switched to google chrome and safari. Reason, take a reasonably good browser, speed it up a bit, change the way it looks, add some junk that no one needs, make the 64 bit version unusable, AND MAKE IT CRASH CONSTANTLY. Result. another user bites the dust and moves to something more reliable. i am probably wrong in my assumptions but don't have the time to wait on pages not loading, and being told that flash does not support this application. Fancy tricks and all singing all dancing applications, why. all i want is to type in what i want to look at and save some pages to bookmarker for using again, and thats it. MAKE IT SIMPLE. P L E A S E!!!!!!!!!

re: IE Feedback: Looking Back, Forging Ahead

@Microsoft Connect VS BugZilla — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:41:44 GMT

you are right what you expect from IE. they show you madness by showing their thing and thought everywhere.

like in IE video someone joke on Chrome and firefox because they have something. can you believe joke on thing who have something insead of have something not prove which type of mind they have. well can you show me how much time developer get frustrated from chrome or Firefox prehaps their is much developer who make their application in chrome and firefox and only test in IE. because who not know IE6.

IE9 is undoubtly have performance but can anyone tell me how much time someone got problem in firefox and chrome. prehaps in firefox and chrome extension have easily avilable to make experience better so their is nothing anyone feel in chrome they not have. when someone move from chrome to IE their is not single problem they have they have much thing they feel they not have.

1. extension addons personas like customization

2. instant integration with web application [ minus point of IE] because their is much person on internet have facebook or twitter account and many of application have addons in chrome and firefox to work easily with them.

i thing someone from IE can make a big list then me for both products' pros and cons if they write trough free mind not by think only one side thought.

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hAl — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:58:55 GMT

@Maximilian

No, I don't, I am pretty sure everyone working at MS using connect knows the connect software is crappy and similar for the MSDN and Technet blog software.

re: IE Feedback: Looking Back, Forging Ahead

Maximilian Haru Raditya — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:56:41 GMT

@hAl:

> The connect site is extremely poor performing and anoying to use so I don't use it anymore.

Have you reported the issue directly here: connect.microsoft.com/Connect You can see how they would respond to it then.

re: IE Feedback: Looking Back, Forging Ahead

Gérard Talbot — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:05:17 GMT

@Justin Saint Clair [MSFT]

In the last 5 years, a lot of people have been consistently complaining with regards to the way bugs are closed, resolved during beta development, making them waste time, efforts, typing to re-file, resubmit the same bug reports again when the next development phase starts. It's been like that since IE7 development. Other bug tracking systems used by other browser manufacturers use keywords field (eg needreduction, testcase), component field, target field, etc. use better resolution reserved words (latered, futured, fixed, worksforme, duplicate, etc), etc,etc. I explained clearly and cleanly in the past how this IE beta feedback could have been improved.

> Users continue to be able to search

> you now can search across both IE8 and IE9 for bugs

What you say is incomplete. It is not possible to view a bug report (even if you're the original reporter) or search bug reports without registering and then logging in into connect IE beta feedback. No one has to do this with other browser manufacturers' bug tracking systems (except Opera BTS).

Microsoft changed this after IE8 beta development without any explanations, justifications.

@hAl

> The connect site is extremely poor performing and anoying to use

Years ago, I said so in this blog and I was not alone; suggested improvements in good faith were given too.

> the blog here which is also extremely poor software

The blog software has most likely only been tested for IE. I wrote about it and nothing improved.

Eg. This blog does not have a preview feature; a simple thing that others already reported years ago.

"Why can't this blog work like other blogs and have markup and preview."

blogs.msdn.com/.../the-first-year-of-ie7.aspx

Gérard Talbot

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pmbAustin — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:40:58 GMT

My biggest UI beef of the moment: I have a dark background/wallpaper. Thanks to the transparent/translucent tabs, I can barely read anything on them. In IE8, the tabs were solid. Please make a new update that makes the background behind the tabs SOLID (especially when they're on a line by themselves). Also, the active tab is STILL difficult to see in many cases. And sometimes the colored tab groupings are way too close in color to the default tab color, making grouping difficult to discern. And finally, the 'close' box... I know a lot of people asked to be able to close a tab without switching to it, but I've accidentally closed so many tabs right now that I find that feature more of a nusance than the old behavior.

And I'm still finding way too many sites that don't function under IE9. Time.com recently had a survey, and none of the survey controls worked. And local real estate pages have 'slide shows' that simply don't function. Even under compatibility mode. They work just fine in other browsers. So that's frustrating.

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Fake Al Gore — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:50:28 GMT

IE9 is so close to being my preferred browser except for the lack of extensions. There is no good (stable) AdBlock Plus-type feature. I can't install the Reddit Enhancement Suite. I can't install GreaseMonkey or their scripts. These are things that work in multiple other browsers. Why won't the IE team create a new extension interface that will allow these sorts of amazing enhancements to functionality?

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hAl — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:36:36 GMT

The connect site is extremely poor performing and anoying to use so I don't use it anymore.

Almost like that for the blog here which is also extremely poor software.

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Quppa — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:27:30 GMT

Great, but can you get in touch with the Connect team and tell them to ease up on the AJAX? Having the navigation view reset every time one clicks 'Back' or 'Refresh' is supremely annoying.

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As Designed is NOT the same as Deferred — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 00:46:47 GMT

Lets be extremely clear. As noted above, "As Designed" is a special status that means it was INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED a certain way ON PURPOSE and will not be changed because it was done this way for security, usability, or whatever.

Unfortunately Microsoft has no clue how to use the "As Designed" status and slaps it on anything they don't want to do or deal with right now. -- this is the problem!!!!!

Without a "Deferred" status you are absolutely marking the status of some bugs incorrectly.

Like everyone else that ditched Connect due to the unbelievably bad management/design of the tool I don't plan to return anytime soon. However if Microsoft plans to fix Connect, add a Deferred status and update the bugs and reply to comments on a frequent basis I'd be more than happy to return.

If I return and see a single "100% reproduce-able, well documented bug in IE" marked as "By Design" again I can assure I will never, ever return to Connect again - Microsoft has cried wolf with Connect 3 times already - we will not stand for a 4th.

Mike