RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

KodumBozuk — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:26:42 GMT

@Eric: Looks like 9.0.28.0 on one of the machines. I'm not in a position to check the version on the other one at the moment.

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

Baffin — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:49:31 GMT

@Gerard: (follow-up to above) I guess the HTML validators don't mind or warn about missing </td>'s, which led me to the below HTML, which appears to cause the IE8 rendering anomaly mentioned above but is cleaner.

<!DOCTYPE html public "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"

"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

<html>

<body>

</table>

</body></html>

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

Baffin — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:19:11 GMT

@Gerard: Congratulations, you did what three HTML validators and several humans failed to do -- found an HTML error. Thank you! When the error is corrected, IE8 rendered properly. I'll follow up in postings I made on this in the newsgroup.

ps. IE8's DevTool interface to validation doesn't work for me -- when I select it, after the 'do I want' popup, nothing happens. I've posted elsewhere but no ideas. So I did the 'validation' manually at htmlhelp.com and w3.org

@hAl: I don't think I can -- doesn't it require registration which is now closed?

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

John in Florida — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:12:28 GMT

@Eric: Just one. It's Flash10b.ocx, dated 02/02/2009, version 10.0 r22 (10.0.22.87).

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

EricLaw [MSFT] — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:35:59 GMT

@John: It's important to understand that buggy add-ons can crash inside IE DLLs. If, for instance, an add-on passes a null pointer into an IE dll (e.g. mshtml) that DLL will be on the top of the stack when the crash occurs. You must look at the full stack of the crash to determine the origin of crashes.

In your C:\windows\system32\macromed\Flash folder, how many different .ocx and .dlls do you have?

@Concerned: Where *exactly* did you right-click and not see a menu?

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

John in Florida — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:24:41 GMT

@Eric: The version numbers are hinky. If I right-click a Flash object on a website and select "About Flash Player 10", version 10,0,22,87 is reported. If I go into "Manage Add-Ons" in IE and look at the "Shockwave Flash Object", it's v9.0.28.0.

So I'm actually running the latest version of Flash player.

Also, even if Flash player is buggy that would only explain half of my crashes on window closing. It wouldn't explain the mshtml.dll crashes.

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

Concerned User — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:45:48 GMT

2 issues

1) When trying to vote on the bug database, it requires 'sign in to rate', which is not what this article indicates. After actually signing in, if you try to vote you're taken to 'page not found'. So... this whole endeavor not working as intended, at least for some, if not all, of us.

2) Bug ID 364199 was closed as 'probably not a bug' (I paraphrase here). It is in fact a bug on my laptop, and behaves exactly as the original bug report states.

Please REALLY open up the database so we can vote on these bugs or it is useless to both you and us.

Regards,

Concerned User

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

EricLaw [MSFT] — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:07:55 GMT

John: You might want to upgrade to the latest version of Flash 10.

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

John in Florida — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:59:33 GMT

@Eric: Looks like 9.0.28.0 on one of the machines. I'm not in a position to check the version on the other one at the moment.

re: RE: IE8 Beta Feedback

Gérard Talbot — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:22:45 GMT

@Baffin and @hAl

<tr><td align=center style="padding-bottom: 0.5em">Padded test line<td></tr>

is NOT

<tr><td align=center style="padding-bottom: 0.5em">Padded test line</td></tr>

Notice the missing forward slash in the closing td tag.

regards, Gérard