IE December Security Update Now Available

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

hAl — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:16:04 GMT

@WoodyKC

Yes, a builtin spellchecker would be great. Much more usefull in practical use than SVG or nonstandardized html5 support.

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

Mitch 74 — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:00:23 GMT

@dlh2009: some consider that Web programmers aren't developers. Maybe Monkey is of that group...?

@WoodyKC: from my testing, IE 8 on XP and on Vista or 7 is functionally identical (it may not have Protected Mode, but since I disable UAC and use limited user accounts on all OSes, it becomes moot) and I couldn't find any variation in performance nor stability. One thing you can try is remove OEM settings: in a command prompt, run

rundll32 iedkcs32.dll,Clear

then reset the browser (Control panel->Internet properties->Advanced->Reinitialize) to give IE (all versions) a thorough scrubbing.

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

WoodyKC — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:34:58 GMT

I made the mistake of downloading IE8 on an XP professional laptop and desktop. I now only use Safari or Firefox on those computers. However, my wife bought me a new laptop with Windows 7 64 bit, IE8 is great on this platform. Another example of MS pushing you towards upgrade, something the 3rd party people love. Safari is much better on non 64 bit machines, then Firefox, IE8 is a long way behind.

Remember how MS tried to kill VB? They are repeating the errors of the past. I agree in both cases that C# is better and so is Win 7, but you can't bully people forever.

btw the Safari spell check is awsome, Firefox's is good to. Is it that beyond IE?

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

новости дня — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:13:27 GMT

I had the same problem like George. It's ok now after reseting all zones to default level. Thanks!

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

dlh2009 — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:36:35 GMT

Developers, Developers, Developers.... What is Steve Ballmer talking about? If he is for Developers, then he would tell the IE team to start sticking with web 2.0 standards and make it easier for Developers to support IE.

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

thecrochunter — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:53:26 GMT

@wonkette: It would be interesting to see if MSFT ever releases a Web browser under it's 'Bing' brand.

@EricLaw: I have used Windows for months w/o applying any updates whatsoever and no viruses were picked up.

@Johnnyq3: I think it's best to just leave the Webkit thing out for the time being. And, Opera doesn't use WebKit either; it uses Presto.

@nobody: It's interesting to see you (negatively) commenting on someone who's trying to make a point.

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

Johnnyq3 — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:24:18 GMT

You guys are some serious trolls of sorts going on about Webkits this and Webkits that.

Webkits isn't perfect and Trident isn't either but have 3+ browsers based on Webkits is a horrible idea. Firefox will be the only one not conforming. No renderer is perfect and Acid 3 isn't final. Just remember that.

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

wonkette — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:33:53 GMT

I wish you guys would make a totally new browser like Safari or Chrome, built to be fast fast fast, won't crash, supports HTML5 and all web standards, doesn't use anything proprietary, etc. Open source it, too, so that others will build on it. Give it away.

And don't call it IE. Pick a new name, just like Bing was a new name for Live and is better than Live search. A Bing Browser, perhaps.

re: IE December Security Update Now Available

EricLaw [ex-MSFT] — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:30:18 GMT

@thecrochunter: Failing to install updates is a bad idea; you're putting the system at risk from a security point-of-view, and you'll never get any fixes for known crashing bugs.

In terms of troubles with updates-- while we investigate any reported issues, it's important to take such reports with a grain of salt-- every Windows Update is successfully installed without any problem by many hundreds of millions of users. For some users, the reboot to finish installing the patches is the only reboot they've done for many weeks, and the reboot itself may have the side-effect of revealing a configuration problem that occurred weeks ago.

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mike — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:59:21 GMT

@nobody - why should @harold not state his case?

I love programming web apps - and if I had millions of dollars I'd still program more web apps.... but I certainly don't and would not enjoy making them work in IE.

Programming for Safari, Firefox & Chrome is a piece of cake. IE8 running in "better" standards mode is tolerable but IE7 and IE6 are like trying to program web apps to run on Netscape 4.x - just plain horribly annoying.

As I said - I love programming for the Web - but programming for IE is a PITA - plain and simple. I'm not gonna change career paths due to and end-system that can't keep up. I'll support it as long as the money allows me to but I'll be dropping support just like @harold as soon as it no longer makes sense (which by most predictions will happen in 2010)

Mike