“Going live” with Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2

“Going live” with Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2

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We are pleased to declare Beta 2 of Visual Studio 2010 and the .NET Framework 4 a “go live” release (read more about it on Soma’s blog). This means that Beta 2 has met high standards of quality for pre-release software, and we are licensing it for developing and deploying production applications.

We hope that you will consider using Beta 2 for “go live” production purposes. As you use Beta 2, we want to hear from you at our Connect site if you find any bugs.

In order to decide whether or not using Beta 2 in a “go live” scenario is right for you, you should carefully understand the terms and limitations of the “go live” license. Start by reading the license terms for Beta 2, which includes the official “go live” licensing terms.

The following guidelines should also help you understand the ways in which we are committed to helping you have a great experience with Beta 2.

  • We are committed to providing a smooth upgrade path from Beta 2 to the final release (“RTM”) of Visual Studio 2010 and the .NET Framework 4. For Team Foundation Server, this means moving data from Team Foundation Server 2008 to Team Foundation Server 2010 Beta 2 and then eventually to Team Foundation Server 2010 RTM. Most importantly this means source code, work items, tests, builds and the warehouse.
  • We give you permission to use Beta 2 to create applications using runtimes which are “go live.” For example, the .NET Framework 4 is “go live” for beta2 and you can create applications both for internal use and external use. See the license terms for more details, including pre-release notifications and other details for distribution.
  • Our Support team is staffed to help support Beta 2 if you encounter problems. If you plan to use Beta 2 for “go live” please send email to vsgolive@microsoft.com so that we can register you for beta level support.
  • Another option for requesting assistance is to visit MSDN Forums. The MSDN Forums are frequented by Microsoft MVP’s and members of the product group, and are a great place to search for issues submitted by others which might match problems you encounter.
  • You should take adequate measures to back up and protect your data prior to upgrading to Beta 2. You should also have an ongoing data backup and protection plan in place during your use of Beta 2.

Thank you again for your ongoing commitment to Visual Studio and the .NET Framework. With your assistance and ongoing feedback we can ship the best release ever!

  • Can we do parallel having TFS 2008 (old project) and TFS 2010 (new project) and do we have ability to move 2008 projects to 2010 in the future project by project.  Thanks...

  • Will visual studio 2010 works normally with team foundation server 2008 ?

  • @Max,

    I'm not sure what you mean by "in parallel" - you can't have TFS 2008 and TFS 2010 on the same machine, but your clients can connect to both servers. You can upgrade TFS 2008 projects straight to beta 2, or at RTM. There is a setup configuration wizard for this.

    @Haitham,

    Yes. See http://blogs.msdn.com/teams_wit_tools/archive/2009/10/19/compatibility-matrix-for-2010-beta-2-team-foundation-server-to-team-explorer-2008-and-2005.aspx

  • i see in msdn the download link is disabled

  • Anirudha  - Make sure you're using your correct MSDN Live ID to log in to the MSDN download center.  If you don't have the right permissions, you can see but not download the files.

  • Unfortunatelly, the product (Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2 Premium Edition) crashes for me on startup with an "The application cannot start." dialog box. I have already filed a bug report on Microsoft Connect with full WinDbg output:

    https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=499244

  • The weakest VS.NET beta so far, it crashes anytime I create a project.

  • Paul - I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble with the beta release.  Please post a report via http://connect.microsoft.com/visualstudio so we can help you.  Given the positive feedback we've recevied to date, your experience is not typical. I'm hoping we can address your issue quickly so you can continue evaluating this release.

  • Michael - I'm sorry to hear you're having problems getting VS to start up.  I'm in contact with the dev team to see how we can best help you.  In the meantime, would you mind contacting me via email (jeff.beehler at microsoft.com) so we have your contact information?

  • Where is the best place to leave comments about VS 2010?  I'll put it here, but if there is a better place, please let me know.

    I don't like the close button on the tabs.  I don't like it in Firefox, but at least there I can move it back to the right side.  You can middle click to close, that is good enough for me.  It seems to me like it is just taking up unnecessary space.  I think there should be an option to change it back to the way it was done in VS2008.  Maybe there is, and I'm just missing it.  If that is the case, where is it?  If not, is it possible to get this option into the final version?

  • Bryan - The best place to leave feedback is on http://connect.microsoft.com/visualstudio.  Bugs and suggestions filed there wind up in our internal instance of TFS that we use to track our work prior to release.  

    I'll send along your feedback about the close button on the tabs to the team that works in that area.  It really does seem to be a matter of personal preference based on what I've heard from customers.

    Thanks!

  • Thanks. It looks like I'm not alone with my preference. I see others that have posted this suggestion that page. Thanks for the link.

  • I had VS Studio 2010 Beta 1 installed up until now and it worked perfectly, no bugs till this point. I uninstalled it yesterday and installed Beta 2 (Clean install).

    The install goes fine, but every time I run the program it crashes, if I open a new project it crashes, no matter what I do the program crashes. This was the Ultimate edition, I then downloaded the Premium edition and no change either. It still keeps crashing.

    So, I decided to try it out on another computer. Still CRASHES. I know since it was just released, there is no official support for the bugs yet. I've re installed VS studio 2010 Beta 1 and it works just fine.

  • Jerob - I'm sorry to hear you're having troubles with Beta2.  I'd like to have someone on our team help you.  Are you able to report the issue on http://connect.microsoft.com/visualstudio so that we can follow up with you?  

  • We've been using various incarnations of .NET 4.0 since an early CTP release. For each of those early releases, we used a dedicated machine that was wiped and reinstalled for each LCTP drop -- there were very specific warnings about not trying to uninstall these.

    With Beta 2, it appears to uninstall cleanly, so we're moving it to production machines. For those of you having issues, if you had an earlier release installed that may be the cause of the instability. Try Beta 2 on a fresh machine. It even works fine next to VS 2003/2005/2008 pro versions.

    From what I've seen, this beta 2 release is in very good shape technically, and we're planning nightly builds against beta 2 until the final version is RTMed, then we'll be ready for launch in March.

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