The relationship between the 'United States - International' keyboard layout and the Euro....

The date we'll add the INDIAN RUPEE SIGN to the 'United States - International' keyboard layout

Sorting it all Out — Wed, 30 May 2012 14:03:08 GMT

Doug Ewell commented in response to The relationship between the 'United States - International' keyboard

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Michael S. Kaplan — Wed, 30 May 2012 05:51:05 GMT

I'll answer *that* question, in a blog tomorrow!

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Doug Ewell — Tue, 29 May 2012 19:15:30 GMT

And now, on The Unicode List™, we have someone wanting to know the position where INDIAN RUPEE SIGN will be added to the "U.S. English" keyboard. I don't know if he meant specifically Microsoft's, but maybe. The guy is located in Pune. It shows that despite their names, and despite the presence of local keyboards, the "U.S." keyboard layouts are in worldwide use.

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JW — Sun, 27 May 2012 16:21:59 GMT

As a dutch individual, I can express my continued frustration with keyboards and their layouts, both in software and hardware. A certain major manufacturer refuses to sell 'United States International' style keyboards, meaning that I can't possibly get the product I want from them unless I import. Single-row ENTER key with Backslash above it, wide left shift with nothing to the left of the z, proper insert/delete keys in the 6-button isle above my arrow keys... sadly all that is too much to ask for. :(

Throw in the frustrations you outline above, and the fact that at least half the programs I use daily do not play well with AltGr+5, and the Euro becomes too frustrating to use. In practice, I simply type 'EUR 100,-' or even '100 euro' when in discussions. At least that _works_ and doesn't kill my train of thought.

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Lars Viklund — Thu, 24 May 2012 09:46:11 GMT

I wish that the AltGr-deadkey variant (altinter) was shipped with Windows. It's a boon for some of us European programmers, but sadly suffers from being very hard to get approved by IT in many companies.

It moves the dead keys into the AltGr side of things, so that when you sit there programming or on a remote shell, you don't end up with things like »äpple"« and »ñame/bin/foo«.

X.Org already ships a similar layout, surely you can't be worse? :D

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Michael S. Kaplan — Wed, 23 May 2012 14:50:13 GMT

The default install stuff is XP and later, actually. :-)

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Jan Kučera — Wed, 23 May 2012 14:38:42 GMT

It's the US International keyboard which I really don't like. All the dead keys, especially, (...quotes?). Nice to see there are people who use it, probably the thing I actually hate is that somebody decided that this keyboard should be installed automatically, as you noted. The same with default locale keyboards still being installed if one during the setup explicitly chooses a QWERTY variation instead, for example.

Anyway the data you present are from installations which have it by default installed (I guess Vista and later)? That distorts the numbers a bit, doesn't it? Do you have numbers before this decision? Or numbers of people who uninstalled it? :-)