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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Keyboards: plug-and-play, not plug-and-communicate-what-they-look-like</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx</link><description>I have talked a whole bunch of times about the disconnect between the hardware side of keyboards and the software "layout" side of them. Like in Keyboards: hardware vs. software , for example. 
 If I am in Windows and I am looking at the device manager</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Evolution Platform Developer Build (Build: 5.6.50428.7875)</generator><item><title>Having 103, 106, or 109 keys when they may not be expected</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#10196756</link><pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:06:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10196756</guid><dc:creator>Sorting it all Out</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Sometimes Microsoft has a bug. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; It happens. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I know that you all have trouble believing this!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10196756" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Keyboards: plug-and-play, not plug-and-communicate-what-they-look-like</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#10078774</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 06:28:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10078774</guid><dc:creator>Michael S. Kaplan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Um, ok. Thanks for the feedback.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10078774" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Keyboards: plug-and-play, not plug-and-communicate-what-they-look-like</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#10078773</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:09:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10078773</guid><dc:creator>keely P.</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;U Suck!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10078773" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>One thing I'll always envy Mac OS X for</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#6317688</link><pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:21:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6317688</guid><dc:creator>One thing I'll always envy Mac OS X for</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;PingBack from &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/11/16/one-thing-ill-always-envy-mac-os-x-for"&gt;http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/11/16/one-thing-ill-always-envy-mac-os-x-for&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6317688" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>Apple 3, Microsoft 0 (aka Sorting Mac and Windows all Out)</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#6141855</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:18:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6141855</guid><dc:creator>Sorting It All Out</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This is another of those fun Mac vs. Windows user interface intuitivosity posts, like this other one&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6141855" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Keyboards: plug-and-play, not plug-and-communicate-what-they-look-like</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#6066085</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:36:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6066085</guid><dc:creator>Michael S. Kaplan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, it looks like even Mac folks confuse the hardware with the software when it comes to keyboard sometimes. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When Mark talks about three, I am pretty sure he is talking about those three from the last dialog -- each of which can be used by multiple different language....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6066085" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Keyboards: plug-and-play, not plug-and-communicate-what-they-look-like</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#6065067</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:07:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6065067</guid><dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;@Mark - Apple actually only sells two keyboards at the moment.... but they each come in at least twelve different layouts, at least according to the Dutch store.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6065067" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Keyboards: plug-and-play, not plug-and-communicate-what-they-look-like</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#6052396</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:31:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6052396</guid><dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;@mark: it was a Dell keyboard?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6052396" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Keyboards: plug-and-play, not plug-and-communicate-what-they-look-like</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#6031601</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:38:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6031601</guid><dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;What's even better than this is… open Keyboard Viewer (you'll need the language menu bar item, unless you use AppleScript to launch it), especially if you're on a MacBook/iBook/PowerBook/MBP. Type a few keys with your external keyboard, then type some more on your laptop keyboard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6031601" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Keyboards: plug-and-play, not plug-and-communicate-what-they-look-like</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/11/05/5892994.aspx#6028587</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:12:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6028587</guid><dc:creator>Watts</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, some Mac programs have &amp;quot;Apply&amp;quot; buttons, too. I think Windows programs sometimes go a little overboard in their use of it, but it's nice to have at times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for moving close buttons and what have you, well. People used to the Mac think the Mac is intuitive, are frustrated by Windows... and are usually surprised when someone who's been using Windows for a decade sits down in front of a Mac and gets frustrated. :) But in either case, it's not really a different language, just a different dialect, and arguments about clear superiority of one or the other tend to be... exaggerated.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like the fact that Apple goes through the steps to identify the keyboard, but the dialog box could certainly be refined -- although I'm not sure I'd call it &amp;quot;patronizing.&amp;quot; Not to any greater degree than most &amp;quot;wizard&amp;quot;-style dialog box progressions are, at least.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6028587" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>