Where to put design-time stuff in HTML pages or my rant about W3C

re: Where to put design-time stuff in HTML pages or my rant about W3C

Jerry Pisk — Sun, 06 Jun 2004 07:48:00 GMT

To a point yes. But once they realize they've been wrong you're going to loose them. Look at McDonald's, all their super-sizing was based on customer feedback. You need to realize that customers do not know what they want, that's your job to find out. If they tell you they want a feature it's because somebody told them they wanted, not because they actually want (and need) it. If somebody tells you they need to be able to publish a fixed layout document, like a newspaper or a book using HTML you need to tell them they're trying to use HTML to do something it wasn't designed for (and therefore cannot easily do), not to force HTML to do things it wasn't supposed to do. It's like listening to people that want to run a web server on Windows 98 - it's just not going to happen, it is the wrong tool for the job.

re: Where to put design-time stuff in HTML pages or my rant about W3C

Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT) — Sat, 05 Jun 2004 17:36:00 GMT

Hold on, isn't them who actually pay us? :-) I have heard they are always right ;-)

re: Where to put design-time stuff in HTML pages or my rant about W3C

Jerry Pisk — Sat, 05 Jun 2004 17:29:00 GMT

That doesn't make them right though.

re: Where to put design-time stuff in HTML pages or my rant about W3C

Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT) — Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:36:00 GMT

However, many customers think otherwise :-)

re: Where to put design-time stuff in HTML pages or my rant about W3C

Jerry Pisk — Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:10:00 GMT

HTML is not supposed to be a format that supports what you want it to support. If you need those features (precise control over layout) then you're using the wrong tool for the job and would be much better off with lets say PDF than HTML.