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Randy Guthrie – Microsoft Technology Evangelist http://blogs.msdn.com/MIS_Laboratory
One of the new features in Windows 8.1 Preview is the much requested option to boot directly to the traditional Windows 7-ish desktop instead of to the Windows 8 Start Screen that features the tiles. In other words, when your computer starts up; after logging in the first screen you see can see this:
instead of this:
Changing the settings isn’t hard, but it’s not something you’ll find just searching for it. Note: this only works with the 8.1 preview; it is not part of the production version of Windows 8.
Go to the Desktop, then right-click in the taskbar, and select “Properties”, then click on the navigation tab to open up this menu:
Check the box in the Start Screen list that says “Go to the desktop instead of Start when I sign in”. Then click the “OK” button. Next time you start up you’ll go to the desktop first. incidentally, the navigation part of the properties menu is new; some of the other options look interesting. I may end up un-checking the “search everywhere” option since the results are sometimes too broad and include Internet search results as well. I’ll have to play with that one and see.
When I first heard about this feature I enabled it on one of my laptops since I use it primarily as a desktop computer connected to a large monitor. It doesn’t have a touch screen so I figured going to the desktop would save me a step. It turns out that more often than not, once I log in, I hit the Windows Key on the keyboard and go to the Start Screen to launch the apps that I want and then go back to the desktop. Yes, I can pin the Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc. ) and Visual Studio icons on the taskbar and not have to go to the Start Menu, but more often than not I end up wanting to go to the Start Screen first. I like the live tile notifications that appear on my favorite apps, so for the way that I use the computer now, it works better for me to launch to the Start Screen instead of the Desktop, even though I don’t have a touch screen in front of me. I am starting to think that the Windows UX designers may have been right all along, and that over time this option will end up being one of the most requested and least-used features in the new release.
What do you think?
Seems like a good option to have; most people use desktop icons to start apps instead.
You have a point. Even I have noticed that after landing on the Windows 8.1 desktop, I do end up opening the start screen to check the notifications and launch a few apps or programs. But then I suppose, old habits die hard and people just feel more comfortable when they see the desktop first. :)
People don't like tiles on Windows Phone, so Windows Phone has a low market share. Even Windows 8 sales say you f*cked it up and still you guys don't get the message.
People don't like your tiles. No matter how often you compare yourself with other companies in stupid ads or try to force Asus, LG or any other company to ship Windows 8 with their devices. People just don't like them.
Even your Surface sales are embaressing. People are requesting an option to boot to the desktop. You now offer this option, still you say people won't use it that often.
Turn it on by default and look how many people will change the settings to boot to the start screen. Then you have your answer.
When did the Windows UX designers talk about this? Do you have a link?
Well yes, as long as there is no menu in the desktop mode - it is still gimped. Stardock Start8 fixes this. I never go metro, and even if I want to run a metro app, I run it in a window in the desktop.
I'm a desktop user for life. Reductionist mobile design paradigms have no place on the desktop PC.
Any attempts to improve the new Modern interface and make it more productive or robust will only be re-inventing the desktop in a different skin, and we already have a perfectly functional desktop.
That's the way YOU use it. I use keyboard shortcuts and pinned task bar apps primarily and don't care to get "live" information on my desktop that I've already received on my smartphone and tablet. If I were running 8 on a tablet I might go to the Metro screen first, but on a desktop I just don't. Otherwise I actually really like 8. And 8.1 is pretty decent too, though I wish I could make the start button go away because I use the buttons on my keyboard to switch between the Metro and desktop screens.
My favorite feature of Win 8.1 is the ability to run desktop apps side-by-side with Metro apps. The start button and boot to desktop nonsense was neither required nor desired.
I don't like the fact that you have to tie an e-mail account to your log in, and if you internet is down windows 8 & 8.1 does not let you log in.
I agree completely about the Start screen being the way to go with Win 8!
It took me a week or two to get used to it during the first beta, but it absolutely makes sense when user actually USE it, instead of complaining about it simply being different.
I'd like to see the desktop first. I have the favorite apps pinned in my taskbar and I like it that way most.
It may end up that way but a desktop is meant to be desktop, and desktop should appear first.
A more efficent workflow would be to set up the most used desktop applications to autostart (IDE, web browser, etc.) In this case, there's no reason not to boot straight to the desktop.
It sounds like what Microsoft did was adhere to the letter of the request instead of changing the experience back to something Windows 7-esque. The whole point of going back to the desktop is because you already know how the desktop works and where everything is. Giving Windows 8.1 customers a "desktop" that requires them to jump through additional hoops to get to the programs they want to use sounds to me like Microsoft saying "OK, we heard you, we'll give you what you want, just not the way you want it" and by default people will then pick the "easier" of the two interfaces (the Start Screen). By doing that, people will fall right in line with how MS will do things OS-wise from now into the foreseeable future. I think MS is just manipulating its customers into seeing things their way.
as a longtime windows user I've just not been able to get behind metro/win8 I always boot to desktop and then NEVER think about the tile interface. I've tried forcing myself to use it, but the dichotomy no desktop vs desktop eventually rears it's ugly head and something triggers desktop mode, and then I'm stuck switching between desktop / metro back and forth and eventually i go 'screw it' and just work in desktop mode again. The "Tile" interface is great for TOUCH devices, that's it, it's just not usable for real work, gaming, media, etc on a desktop.
I think they got it half right. They needed to also allow the option to bring back the Start button and everyone would be happy. We purchased Windows 8 licenses at my work, but rolled out Windows 7 partially due to the interface changes (mass confusion for the users) and also due to it not being fully approved for compatibility with all our main applications.