Editor’s note: The following post was written by SharePoint MVP Corey Roth
The Microsoft Surface Pro 3 is an amazing device and OneNote works quite well on it. When it comes to using OneNote with the Surface Pro 3, you have the option of using the OneNote 2013 (the desktop application) and the Windows 8.1 Store application. By default, it will use the Windows Store app when you activate it with your stylus. This can be changed though (read on). The feature sets between these two applications vary. This article is going to cover note taking on the Surface Pro 3 as well as what the handwriting experience is like using both applications to help you decide which works best for your needs
The Windows Store application is designed with touch in mind. It features the new radial menu that allows you to quickly select features such as copy / paste, tagging, tables, drawing, and the camera. It works well using your finger or the stylus. The screenshot below shows a selection of text and how I can use the radial menu to change the look and feel as well as use the tagging features.
The camera feature is exclusive to the Windows Store application allowing you to take pictures directly from the device’s camera and insert them into OneNote. This is a great feature for taking pictures of whiteboards.
When you are using the Windows Store application using a keyboard and mouse, you might miss the lack of context menus available. For example if you are used to cutting and pasting text by right clicking, that feature is not available. Instead, you either need to use the keyboard shortcut (i.e. Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V) or use the cut and paste commands from the radial menu. The Windows Store application does support many common keyboard shortcuts though. This includes my personal favorite Ctrl+. which inserts a bulleted list. That’s a shortcut I would love to see come to the rest of Office.
The OneNote desktop application has more features comparatively but using it with touch is not as ideal. Although, the desktop mode defaults to touch mode, you’ll find certain tasks such as searching when you have the Surface Pen in your hand a bit cumbersome. For example, if you are holding the device vertically in the hand, that means you need to reach all the way to the taskbar to activate the virtual keyboard. This makes it a bit awkward.
When holding the device vertically, OneNote naturally collapses the ribbon bar and navigation area to provide a larger work area. Click the “…” bar at the top to expand the ribbon. You’ll use this when you want to change the color of your ink.
While OneNote 2013 only has minimal touch features, it has all of the other features you like about OneNote. I personally use the Outlook integration feature a lot which lets me take notes about my meeting and include the details from the calendar invite.
The stylus (or Surface Pen as it is called) that comes with the Surface Pro 3 is a nice upgrade from the previous generations of Surface Pro. It features two buttons on the side and one on the top. It was designed with OneNote in mind too.
As you expect, you can use the Surface Pen for handwriting, but you can do a bit more by making use of its buttons. Click the button at the top of the Surface Pen to open OneNote from wherever you are to jot down a quick note. This even works when the device is locked and your screen is off. Not to worry though, your device is still locked and you can’t view any of the existing notes that you have written until you unlock the device. Write your note and it will automatically be saved. Click the button at the top again if you want to write another separate page of notes.
Using this functionality will always launch the Windows Store version of OneNote even if you set the default to OneNote 2013 (desktop). Also, if you are using the desktop version as your default, and you click it when the device is unlocked, it will open OneNote, but it won’t take you to a new page in your Quick Notes automatically.
If you double click the button at the top of the Surface Pen, it will allow you to take a screen clipping of whatever is currently on your screen. Just drag the area that you want to clip and it will put it in a new page in OneNote. I actually used this feature a number of times to take the screenshots for this article.
The ability to use your own handwriting using a stylus is nothing new to OneNote. This could be done with Windows XP Tablet PC Edition and OneNote 2003. And this could be done in earlier versions of Surface Pro. However the heavier weight of those devices coupled with the 16:9 aspect ratio meant the devices weren’t as comfortable to hold vertically. Surface Pro 3 addresses both of these issues by being light weight and by having the proper 3:2 aspect ratio which makes holding the device feel more similar to a pad of paper.
The Surface Pro 3 features palm block technology allowing you to rest your palm on the screen when you are writing. This is great, but I am so used to not touching the screen when using a stylus I forget that I can rest it there. As you use your device for handwritten notes more and more, you’ll get used to it though.
The two buttons on the side of the Surface Pen can be quite useful. The bottom button is your eraser. Hold it down and move the Surface Pen over the area that you want to erase. In OneNote 2013, it will actually change the pointer to an eraser to visually indicate you are erasing. This feature isn’t present in the Windows Store application.
Use the top button for selection. It effectively works like a lasso where you draw around the text or objects you want to highlight. You can also use it in other Office applications such as Word though and it works similarly to selecting text with a mouse.
Nicole Steinbok, OneNote Program Manager, has a good video on the Office blog demonstrating all of the tricks you can do with the Surface Pen. Be sure and check it out to see the pen in action.
Both OneNote applications support using hand writing. Using the radial menu, you can select the type of ink including thickness and color. OneNote can detect how much pressure you use with the pen to make lines bolder just like with a real pen or pencil.
When taking notes in the Windows Store app, they aren’t indexed. That means you can search for what is in your handwriting, but you won’t get any results. However, if you open the OneNote 2013 desktop application later or on another device, your handwritten notes will get indexed regardless of which application you wrote them with. Then, you can search for them in either application.
OneNote 2013 on the desktop supports handwriting as well. You’ll need to make a few extra screen taps to find the drawing menu for your pen. Since the ribbon is collapsed you’ll need to tap the “…” at the top to expand the menu and pick the type and color of pen you want. This is one spot that I think the radial menus from the Windows 8.1 application really excels.
When it comes to dealing with handwriting, you also have the option of converting it to text. You might be thinking that you need to convert it to text for OneNote to be able to search it, but that’s actually not the case. Once the content is indexed, you will be able to search for text inside the ink whether it’s converted or not. OneNote does an exceptional job at recognizing handwriting and can even parse my sloppy handwriting with ease. I like that you can convert handwriting to text, however, I find that it just introduces more work for me because I am anal and insist everything be formatted consistently in my notes. J Take a look at this handwritten note.
We can convert this to text by clicking the Ink to Text button in the Draw menu of OneNote 2013.
The handwriting you wrote will be converted to text. However, you can see that the formatting is less than ideal. This just means you are going to spend more time trying to correct it.
The ability to search handwritten notes is quite impressive. Whether it is text or handwriting, you can search it either way. When it finds notes that match, they will be highlighted directly in your handwriting.
You can search from the Windows Store application too by activating the search charm and then selecting OneNote. I find this a bit cumbersome, because the search charm will search all applications by default (not just OneNote). You will also find that searching this way will yield different results than the desktop application. The results may be similar but it seems that the order in which things are presented is not the same (notice the results from above). Just remember, that the handwritten notes won’t be indexed unless you open the notebook in OneNote 2013 at some point.
If you have been taking notes on a laptop with OneNote over the years, you know without a doubt you can type faster than you can write. So why would you go back to handwritten notes? There are a few places where I think it’s really valuable. In a meeting at a conference room table, I am going to go with my keyboard every time. What about when you are doing a white boarding session though? The device is great. Just hook it up to a projector and get your Surface Pen out. You can do this when you are sitting or when you are standing up. This is great for drawing diagrams, process flows, and network diagrams.
Another time I find handwriting useful is when I am in a place where I can’t sit. The whiteboard example is a great one. However, I think this is also useful for when you are in the field or at an airport waiting to board an airplane. Just pull your device out and write on it just like it was a legal pad sitting in your clipboard.
By default, the Surface Pro 3 is going to use the Windows Store OneNote application. However, if you decide the desktop application is for you, you can change your default by changing the settings in OneNote 2013. Simply go to File -> Options -> Advanced and then check the box Make OneNote 2013 (desktop) the default OneNote application for OneNote links, notes, and clips.
This is going to be up to your personal preference, but let summarize the key differences between the applications.
OneNote for Windows 8.1
OneNote 2013 (desktop)
With my Surface Pro 3, I find myself jumping between both OneNote applications. Since they sync automatically it doesn’t really matter which one I use. When I am holding the device in my hand and using it with the Surface Pen, I use the Windows Store application. When I am using the device as a laptop, I use the desktop version. By leaving both applications open, it also allows for my handwritten notes to be indexed rather quickly.
You may need to weigh the pros and cons to determine what will be your primary OneNote application. Whether you choose OneNote for Windows 8.1, OneNote 2013, or both, you should have no problem with meeting your note-taking needs.
If you are considering the Surface Pro 3 as the tablet that can replace your desktop, be sure and read my full review.
About the author
Corey Roth is a SharePoint consultant specializing in solutions in the Oil & Gas Industry. He is a four-time recipient of the Microsoft MVP award in SharePoint Server. Corey has always focused on rapid adoption of new Microsoft technologies including SharePoint 2013, Office 365, and Visual Studio 2013. When it comes to SharePoint, he specializes in Office 365 deployments, Enterprise Search, and Apps. As an active member of the SharePoint community, he often speaks at conferences, events, and user groups. Corey has a blog at (www.dotnetmafia.com) where he posts about the latest technology and SharePoint and he develops Office Apps for his company SP2 (www.sp2apps.com). Corey is a huge fan of the Surface line of products. Follow him @coreyroth on Twitter.
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Is there a way to change the pen thickness for the Onenote boot from Pen click on the Surface Pro 3 ?
I have just bought the Surface Pro 3 for myself since I found it awesome for the task of taking notes at the studies at university. Though before I bought it I used to have an ordinary PC with windows 8, but I used the Onenote desktop app. Now, I try to get used to the Windows Store app, but there are certain things I can't make working.
First, a slightly simply question: Can you explain to me how I can change the default settings of the script size which the Store app uses? I keep getting annoyed at the app because it keeps using a size 11 Capri as a default setting, and I just have to correct it each time.
And second, you write that "With my Surface Pro 3, I find myself jumping between both OneNote applications. Since they sync automatically it doesn’t really matter which one I use." - how did you make it sync the notes you make to both programmes?
My Windows store app refuses to open (it can't even "see" the Onenote file that I have located in the OneDrive) the Desktop app's notes, so I had to make a new notebook to put that application's notes in - it would really make it a lot easier if what you're doing is possible - seriously, it would make a significant difference for me, so could you PLEASE spare a couple of minutes to explain/help me get to this. I am desperate for it to work.
I have tried to google my way to the solutions, but it doesn't seem that anyone knows.
Hope you can help me. Camilla.
I started on OneNote 2003, them 2007 and was on 2010 until I purchased a Surface Pro3 on black Friday and was having trouble with new version. Have read several articles and watch as many youtube videos as I could find. Then I found your article and feel it was the best by far it's easy to comprehend, I found if simple, but well stated clear and clean. I am layman so if I can understand it then anyone should be able too. And for what it's worth this is the 1st article I have commented on I think you guys did great Job.
Cool stuff- I CANNOT find the menu on Onenote- where is it?? Trying to use Draw menu to convert ink to text, but don't see menu. Is it hidden??
Thank you for an excellent article. Like Camilla, I too would be most interested in how you got both OneNote applications to sync.
I don't know if you can change the Store App sizes or not. As far as the two OneNote applications they are both tied to your Windows Live account. However, the way you browse and select notebooks is completely different between the applications. You should be able to find them both though. It might just take a number of clicks. You should be able to find it though.
Is there an easy way to change,edit or delete a notebook title?
Is there a way to change a notebook title or to delete it?
Why I do not have a tool bar on my onenote surface bpro 3?
I don't have a menu bar on my Surface Pro. I've clicked everywhere I can think to search for it.
After a reset of my Surface Pro 3, my radial menus have disappeared in OneNote. How can I turn them back on?
Correction on your statement that clicking your surface pen in desktop program does not open a new page. It actually does once you're in a notebook. It'll create a new page in the same section in you're in, in any given notebook.
Is there a way to use Checkboxes with the Surface Pro 3 Stylus?
Thanks for the great write up.
I have been looking for a solution for this for quite some time. I have hesitated with the Samsung tab due to the inability to run windows programs. I need this for work for sure. I just have to wait for the price to come down as I have a spending limit, even as an IT director. :)
So, since I have to wait I may just wait for the 128GB version with 4Glte. unfortunately I think I'll be waiting quite some time :(
im using a Lenovo Yoga so only have one button on my pen. is there a quick way to change colours/thickness without having to go back into the menu each time?
thanks in advance :)