Microsoft Dynamics NAV 2009 has a new graphical object type called Charts or KPIs (Key Performance indicators). It is a way to create simple graphical charts, to give a visual overview of key figures. This post describes what you can and cannot do with charts, and it contains some sample code to how you might create a "Chart Generator Tool" to make it easier to generate new charts.
A chart has a simple layout. You choose the table to base it on, then a field from that table to show along the X-Axis, and - if needed - a filter on this table. Then you select what data from the table to show on the Y-Axis (also called Measure). A measure can be based on Sum or Count. You can display multiple measures in the same chart.
This is what your charts could look like:
Charts can only be displayed in the new NAV 2009 client. To display a chart, follow these steps:
You can personalize the page again to remove a chart, or click "Restore Defaults" to remove any personalization. You can also remove any personalization (including any charts that a user has added) with the classic client, from table 2000000075 "User Metadata". This is the table that stores the personalization for each page for each user. Deleting a record from this table removes any personalization made to that page by that user.
Charts are stored in system table 2000000078 "Chart". You can view them with form 9182 Charts, or from Administration -> Application Setup -> Role Tailored Client -> Charts.
Charts are defined by xml documents which are stored as BLOB fields. You can export a chart to an xml document, then modify the xml document, and import it back as a new chart.
This is an example of a chart definition:
Modifying xml documents can be tedious. But it can be made easier with tools. Below, I have put some sample NAV code, how such a tool could be made.
Note !!!! === The code below is only supplied as an example of how such a tool could be made. It is completely un-supported and to be used at your own risk and responsibility.
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The code below is provided in Text format. When importing text objects into NAV directly, you will not get any warnings whether to overwrite existing objects. So each object has been deliberately changed by adding [RemoveMe] in front of each Object ID. This would have to be removed, after reviewing each Object type and number, to check that it would not overwrite any existing objects!
This is how the tool would work:
the tool contains the following objects:
Type ID Name 1 72000 Chart Generator 1 72001 Chart Generator Filter 1 72003 Chart Generator YAxis 2 72000 Chart Generator List 2 72001 Chart Filters 2 72003 YAxis List 2 72004 Chart Generator Card 5 72000 Chart Generator Mgt
Charts can be generated from form 72004 "Chart Generator Card":
Hit F3 to create a new chart. Enter ID and a Name. As a minimum you must specify Title, "Table ID", "X-Axis Field Name", and one or more Y-Axis fields. Once you have specified the chart definition, then click on Chart -> "Generate Chart". This will automatically either update an existing chart, or generate a new chart in table 2000000078, ready to be used from the new client.
The following example shows how to create a chart to show Inventory for certain items:
Now the definition of the chart is done. To make it available in the new client, click chart -> Generate Chart (F11). If you want to change the chart definition, then just make the necessary changes from the "Chart Generator Card", then hit F11 again to update the existing chart.
Now the chart will be available for the new client as described above. If you update the chart, then the new client will use the new chart definition next time you restart it.
These postings are provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confer no rights. You assume all risk for your use.
Lars Lohndorf-Larsen (Lohndorf)Microsoft Dynamics UKMicrosoft Customer Service and Support (CSS) EMEA
=== sample code only ===
===
Updated 19/10 2008
Updated version of the tool on this post:
3D charts. Chart Generator tool II
This version of the tool also has Z-axis for 3D charts
OBJECT Table [RemoveMe]72000 Chart Generator
{
OBJECT-PROPERTIES
Date=19/08/08;
Time=09:13:04;
Modified=Yes;
Version List=CGT;
}
PROPERTIES
OnInsert=BEGIN
IF Chart.GET(Company,ID) THEN
ERROR('Chart already exists in table 2000000078. Run form 9182 and delete it, or use a different ID.');
END;
LookupFormID=Form72000;
FIELDS
{ 1 ; ;Company ;Text30 }
{ 2 ; ;ID ;Code20 ;NotBlank=Yes }
{ 10 ; ;Name ;Text50 ;OnValidate=BEGIN
Title := Name;
{ 11 ; ;Title ;Text50 }
{ 15 ; ;Type ;Option ;OptionString=Column,Point }
{ 16 ; ;Table ID ;Integer ;OnValidate=BEGIN
MODIFY;
{ 17 ; ;Table Name ;Text30 ;FieldClass=FlowField;
CalcFormula=Lookup(Object.Name WHERE (Type=CONST(Table),
ID=FIELD(Table ID)));
Editable=No }
{ 20 ; ;XAxis Field ID ;Integer }
{ 21 ; ;XAxis Field Name ;Text80 ;OnValidate=BEGIN
IF "XAxis Field Name" <> '' THEN BEGIN
FieldRec.SETRANGE(TableNo,"Table ID");
FieldRec.SETRANGE(FieldName,"XAxis Field Name");
FieldRec.FINDFIRST;
"XAxis Field ID" := FieldRec."No.";
"XAxis Field Name" := FieldRec.FieldName;
"XAxis Field Caption" := FieldRec."Field Caption";
"XAxis title" := FieldRec."Field Caption";
END ELSE BEGIN
"XAxis Field ID" := 0;
"XAxis Field Name" := '';
"XAxis Field Caption" := '';
"XAxis title" := '';
{ 22 ; ;XAxis Field Caption ;Text80 }
{ 23 ; ;XAxis title ;Text80 }
{ 24 ; ;Show Title ;Boolean ;InitValue=Yes }
{ 30 ; ;YAxis fields ;Integer ;FieldClass=FlowField;
CalcFormula=Count("Chart Generator YAxis" WHERE (Company=FIELD(Company),
ID=FIELD(ID)));
KEYS
{ ;Company,ID ;Clustered=Yes }
FIELDGROUPS
CODE
VAR
Chart@1000 : Record 2000000078;
FieldRec@1102601000 : Record 2000000041;
BEGIN
END.
OBJECT Table [RemoveMe]72001 Chart Generator Filter
Time=16:44:37;
TESTFIELD("Filter Field ID");
{ 2 ; ;ID ;Code20 }
{ 3 ; ;Line No. ;Integer }
{ 10 ; ;Filter Field ID ;Integer ;OnValidate=BEGIN
IF "Filter Field ID" <> 0 THEN BEGIN
ChartGen.GET(Company,ID);
ChartGen.TESTFIELD("Table ID");
FieldRec.GET(ChartGen."Table ID","Filter Field ID");
"Filter Field Name" := FieldRec.FieldName;
END ELSE
"Filter Field Name" := '';
{ 11 ; ;Filter Field Name ;Text30 }
{ 15 ; ;Filter Value ;Text30 }
{ ;Company,ID,Line No. ;Clustered=Yes }
ChartGen@1102601001 : Record 72000;
OBJECT Table [RemoveMe]72003 Chart Generator YAxis
Time=07:26:24;
TESTFIELD("YAxis Measure Field ID");
LookupFormID=Form72003;
DrillDownFormID=Form72003;
{ 10 ; ;YAxis Measure Field ID;Integer }
{ 11 ; ;YAxis Measure Field Caption;Text30 }
{ 12 ; ;Mearure Operator ;Option ;OptionString=Sum,Count }
{ 20 ; ;Show Title ;Boolean }
OBJECT Form [RemoveMe]72000 Chart Generator List
Date=12/08/08;
Time=06:50:19;
Width=16500;
Height=6710;
TableBoxID=1;
SourceTable=Table72000;
CONTROLS
{ 1 ;TableBox ;220 ;220 ;16060;5500 ;HorzGlue=Both;
VertGlue=Both }
{ 2 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;4400 ;0 ;HorzGlue=Both;
Visible=No;
ParentControl=1;
InColumn=Yes;
SourceExpr=Company }
{ 3 ;Label ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0 ;ParentControl=2;
InColumnHeading=Yes }
{ 4 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;1700 ;0 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr=ID }
{ 5 ;Label ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0 ;ParentControl=4;
{ 6 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;4400 ;0 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr=Name }
{ 7 ;Label ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0 ;ParentControl=6;
{ 8 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;4400 ;0 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr=Title }
{ 9 ;Label ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0 ;ParentControl=8;
{ 10 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;550 ;0 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr=Type }
{ 11 ;Label ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0 ;ParentControl=10;
{ 12 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;1700 ;0 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr="Table ID" }
{ 13 ;Label ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0 ;ParentControl=12;
{ 14 ;CommandButton;4400 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
VertGlue=Bottom;
Default=Yes;
PushAction=LookupOK;
InvalidActionAppearance=Hide }
{ 15 ;CommandButton;6820 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
Cancel=Yes;
PushAction=LookupCancel;
{ 16 ;CommandButton;14080;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
PushAction=FormHelp }
{ 17 ;MenuButton ;9240 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
CaptionML=ENU=Chart;
Menu=MENUITEMS
{ ID=18;
PushAction=RunObject;
CaptionML=ENU=Filters;
RunObject=Form 72001;
RunFormLink=Company=FIELD(Company),
ID=FIELD(ID) }
{ ID=20;
CaptionML=ENU=XAxis;
RunObject=Form 72002;
RunFormLink=Field1=FIELD(Company),
Field2=FIELD(ID) }
{ ID=21;
CaptionML=ENU=YAxis;
RunObject=Form 72003;
{ 19 ;MenuButton ;11660;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
CaptionML=ENU=F&unctions;
{ ID=22;
ShortCutKey=F11;
CaptionML=ENU=Generate Chart;
RunObject=Codeunit 72000 }
OBJECT Form [RemoveMe]72001 Chart Filters
Time=09:21:22;
Width=12150;
SourceTable=Table72001;
AutoSplitKey=Yes;
DelayedInsert=Yes;
{ 1 ;TableBox ;220 ;220 ;11710;5500 ;HorzGlue=Both;
{ 2 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;1700 ;0 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr="Filter Field ID";
OnLookup=BEGIN
FieldRec.SETRANGE(TableNo,ChartGen."Table ID");
IF FORM.RUNMODAL(FORM::"Field List",FieldRec) = ACTION::LookupOK THEN
VALIDATE("Filter Field ID",FieldRec."No.");
{ 4 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;4400 ;0 ;HorzGlue=Both;
SourceExpr="Filter Field Name" }
SourceExpr="Filter Value" }
{ 8 ;CommandButton;4890 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
{ 9 ;CommandButton;7310 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
{ 10 ;CommandButton;9730 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
ChartGen@1000 : Record 72000;
FieldRec@1001 : Record 2000000041;
OBJECT Form [RemoveMe]72003 YAxis List
Time=07:31:05;
Width=10000;
SourceTable=Table72003;
{ 1 ;TableBox ;220 ;220 ;9560 ;5500 ;HorzGlue=Both;
SourceExpr="YAxis Measure Field ID";
IF FORM.RUNMODAL(FORM::"Field List",FieldRec) = ACTION::LookupOK THEN BEGIN
"YAxis Measure Field ID" := FieldRec."No.";
"YAxis Measure Field Caption" := FieldRec."Field Caption";
SourceExpr="YAxis Measure Field Caption" }
{ 6 ;TextBox ;0 ;0 ;550 ;0 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr="Mearure Operator" }
{ 8 ;CheckBox ;0 ;0 ;1700 ;0 ;ParentControl=1;
ShowCaption=No;
SourceExpr="Show Title" }
{ 10 ;CommandButton;2740 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
{ 11 ;CommandButton;5160 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
{ 12 ;CommandButton;7580 ;5940 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
OBJECT Form [RemoveMe]72004 Chart Generator Card
Time=08:17:28;
Width=16170;
Height=6490;
{ 1 ;TabControl ;220 ;220 ;15730;5280 ;HorzGlue=Both;
VertGlue=Both;
PageNamesML=ENU=General }
{ 4 ;TextBox ;3850 ;990 ;2750 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
InPage=0;
{ 5 ;Label ;440 ;990 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=4 }
{ 6 ;TextBox ;3850 ;1650 ;5500 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
NextControl=12;
{ 7 ;Label ;440 ;1650 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=6 }
{ 8 ;TextBox ;3850 ;2200 ;5500 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
{ 9 ;Label ;440 ;2200 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=8 }
{ 10 ;TextBox ;3850 ;3520 ;2750 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
{ 11 ;Label ;440 ;3520 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=10 }
{ 12 ;TextBox ;3850 ;2860 ;1700 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr="Table ID";
Object.SETRANGE(Type,Object.Type::Table);
IF FORM.RUNMODAL(FORM::Objects,Object) = ACTION::LookupOK THEN
"Table ID" := Object.ID;
OnAfterValidate=BEGIN
CALCFIELDS("Table Name");
{ 13 ;Label ;440 ;2860 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=12 }
{ 21 ;TextBox ;12980;990 ;2750 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
NextControl=1102601000;
SourceExpr="XAxis Field Name";
TESTFIELD("Table ID");
VALIDATE("XAxis Field Name",FieldRec.FieldName);
{ 22 ;Label ;9570 ;990 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=21 }
{ 20 ;TextBox ;12980;1650 ;2750 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr="XAxis Field Caption" }
{ 23 ;Label ;9570 ;1650 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=20 }
{ 24 ;CheckBox ;12980;2750 ;440 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
{ 25 ;Label ;9570 ;2750 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=24 }
{ 27 ;TextBox ;12980;2200 ;2750 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr="XAxis title" }
{ 28 ;Label ;9570 ;2200 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=27 }
{ 1102601000;TextBox;12980;3410 ;1700 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr="YAxis fields" }
{ 1102601001;Label ;9570 ;3410 ;3300 ;440 ;ParentControl=1102601000 }
{ 1102601002;TextBox;5720 ;2860 ;3630 ;440 ;ParentControl=1;
SourceExpr="Table Name" }
{ 14 ;CommandButton;13750;5720 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
{ 15 ;MenuButton ;11330;5720 ;2200 ;550 ;HorzGlue=Right;
CaptionML=ENU=&Chart;
{ ID=16;
PushAction=LookupTable;
ShortCutKey=F5;
CaptionML=ENU=L&ist }
{ ID=26;
{ ID=17;
MenuItemType=Separator }
{ ID=19;
Object@1002 : Record 2000000001;
XAxisField@1000 : Text[30];
OBJECT Codeunit [RemoveMe]72000 Chart Generator Mgt
Time=16:47:56;
TableNo=72000;
OnRun=BEGIN
CreateXML(Rec);
MESSAGE('Chart %1 was created / updated.',Chart.ID);
Chart@1015 : Record 2000000078;
ChartGen@1003 : Record 72000;
ChartFilters@1008 : Record 72001;
ChartYAxis@1012 : Record 72003;
"3TierMgt"@1013 : Codeunit 419;
XMLDoc@1000 : Automation "{F5078F18-C551-11D3-89B9-0000F81FE221} 4.0:{F6D90F11-9C73-11D3-B32E-00C04F990BB4}:'Microsoft XML, v4.0'.DOMDocument";
DomNode@1001 : Automation "{F5078F18-C551-11D3-89B9-0000F81FE221} 4.0:{2933BF80-7B36-11D2-B20E-00C04F983E60}:'Microsoft XML, v4.0'.IXMLDOMNode";
DomNode2@1006 : Automation "{F5078F18-C551-11D3-89B9-0000F81FE221} 4.0:{2933BF80-7B36-11D2-B20E-00C04F983E60}:'Microsoft XML, v4.0'.IXMLDOMNode";
DomTextNode@1002 : Automation "{F5078F18-C551-11D3-89B9-0000F81FE221} 4.0:{2933BF87-7B36-11D2-B20E-00C04F983E60}:'Microsoft XML, v4.0'.IXMLDOMText";
DomAttribute@1004 : Automation "{F5078F18-C551-11D3-89B9-0000F81FE221} 4.0:{2933BF85-7B36-11D2-B20E-00C04F983E60}:'Microsoft XML, v4.0'.IXMLDOMAttribute";
DomNodeList@1009 : Automation "{F5078F18-C551-11D3-89B9-0000F81FE221} 4.0:{2933BF82-7B36-11D2-B20E-00C04F983E60}:'Microsoft XML, v4.0'.IXMLDOMNodeList";
DomProcessInstruction@1005 : Automation "{F5078F18-C551-11D3-89B9-0000F81FE221} 4.0:{2933BF89-7B36-11D2-B20E-00C04F983E60}:'Microsoft XML, v4.0'.IXMLDOMProcessingInstruction";
NameSpace@1007 : Text[80];
i@1010 : Integer;
TempFileName@1014 : Text[250];
Debug@1016 : Boolean;
DebugFileName@1102601000 : Text[250];
IStream@1102601001 : InStream;
PROCEDURE CreateXML@1(ChartGenerator@1000 : Record 72000);
//=== Enable debug and filename to save the xml document to disk
Debug := FALSE;
DebugFileName := '';
//===
CREATE(XMLDoc);
XMLDoc.async(FALSE);
// Initialize document and set namespaces
NameSpace := 'urn:schemas-microsoft-com:dynamics:NAV:MetaObjects';
DomNode := XMLDoc.createNode(1,'ChartDefinition',NameSpace);
DomAttribute := XMLDoc.createAttribute('xmlns:xsd');
DomAttribute.value := 'http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema';
DomNode.attributes.setNamedItem(DomAttribute);
DomAttribute := XMLDoc.createAttribute('xmlns:xsi');
DomAttribute.value := 'http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance';
// add chart type
DomAttribute := XMLDoc.createAttribute('Type');
CASE ChartGenerator.Type OF
ChartGenerator.Type::Column:
DomAttribute.value := 'Column';
ChartGenerator.Type::Point:
DomAttribute.value := 'Point';
XMLDoc.appendChild(DomNode);
AddNode('ChartDefinition','Title','');
AddNode('ChartDefinition/Title','Text',ChartGenerator.Title);
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/Title/Text','ID','ENU');
AddNode('ChartDefinition','Table','');
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/Table','ID',FORMAT(ChartGenerator."Table ID"));
AddNode('ChartDefinition/Table','Filters','');
// Filters
ChartFilters.SETRANGE(Company,ChartGenerator.Company);
ChartFilters.SETRANGE(ID,ChartGenerator.ID);
IF ChartFilters.FINDSET THEN
REPEAT
AddNode('ChartDefinition/Table/Filters','Filter','');
AddNode('ChartDefinition/Table/Filters/Filter','Field','');
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/Table/Filters/Filter/Field','Name',ChartFilters."Filter Field Name");
AddNode('ChartDefinition/Table/Filters/Filter','Value',ChartFilters."Filter Value");
UNTIL ChartFilters.NEXT = 0;
// XAxis
ChartGenerator.TESTFIELD("XAxis Field Name");
AddNode('ChartDefinition','XAxis','');
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/XAxis','ShowTitle',BooleanFormat(ChartGenerator."Show Title")); ///
AddNode('ChartDefinition/XAxis','Title','');
AddNode('ChartDefinition/XAxis/Title','Text',ChartGenerator."XAxis title");
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/XAxis/Title/Text','ID','ENU');
AddNode('ChartDefinition/XAxis','Field','');
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/XAxis/Field','Name',ChartGenerator."XAxis Field Name");
// YAxis
ChartYAxis.SETRANGE(Company,ChartGenerator.Company);
ChartYAxis.SETRANGE(ID,ChartGenerator.ID);
IF ChartYAxis.FINDSET THEN BEGIN
AddNode('ChartDefinition','YAxis','');
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/YAxis','ShowTitle',BooleanFormat(ChartYAxis."Show Title"));
AddNode('ChartDefinition/YAxis','Measures','');
AddNode('ChartDefinition/YAxis/Measures','Measure','');
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/YAxis/Measures/Measure','Operator',FORMAT(ChartYAxis."Mearure Operator"));
AddNode('ChartDefinition/YAxis/Measures/Measure','Field','');
AddAttribute('ChartDefinition/YAxis/Measures/Measure/Field','Name',FORMAT(ChartYAxis."YAxis Measure Field Caption"));
UNTIL ChartYAxis.NEXT = 0;
TempFileName := TEMPORARYPATH + '\' + FORMAT(CREATEGUID) + '.xml';
XMLDoc.save(TempFileName);
IF NOT Chart.GET(ChartGenerator.Company,ChartGenerator.ID) THEN BEGIN
Chart.Company := ChartGenerator.Company;
Chart.ID := ChartGenerator.ID;
Chart.Name := ChartGenerator.Name;
Chart.INSERT;
Chart.BLOB.IMPORT(TempFileName);
Chart.MODIFY;
IF Debug THEN
XMLDoc.save(DebugFileName);
// Clean up
IF EXISTS(TempFileName) THEN
ERASE(TempFileName);
CLEAR(DomNode);
CLEAR(XMLDoc);
PROCEDURE AddNode@2(AddToNode@1000 : Text[120];NodeName@1001 : Text[120];NodeValue@1002 : Text[120]);
DomNodeList := XMLDoc.selectNodes(AddToNode);
DomNode := DomNodeList.item(DomNodeList.length - 1);
DomNode2 := XMLDoc.createNode(1,NodeName,NameSpace);
DomTextNode := XMLDoc.createTextNode(NodeValue);
DomNode2.appendChild(DomTextNode);
DomNode.appendChild(DomNode2);
PROCEDURE AddAttribute@3(AddToNode@1000 : Text[120];AttributeName@1001 : Text[120];AttributeValue@1002 : Text[120]);
DomAttribute := XMLDoc.createAttribute(AttributeName);
DomAttribute.value := AttributeValue;
PROCEDURE BooleanFormat@4(Boo@1000 : Boolean) : Text[30];
IF Boo THEN
EXIT('true');
EXIT('false');
EVENT XMLDoc@1000::ondataavailable@198();
EVENT XMLDoc@1000::onreadystatechange@-609();
Regarding Navision 2009 R2; Is it still not possible - in a simple manner - to have data from two different source tables represented in the same chart/graph in the Role Center's Home page ?
e.g. actual vs. budget (posted invoices vs. budget sale) / (-or table 17 data vs. table 96 data) ?
Sorry, but no. No changes in this area in R2. The only way would be to combine two tables into one table and then use that for a chart. Or take a look at a completely different method of making charts here:
blogs.msdn.com/.../more-charts.aspx
Lars
Hi,
I have a small comment to make. the XML your tool generates is only partly right. You miss to set the Attribute ID on the Field Tag. Like this the Measure SUM never works. Besides that there is an XSD on the installation Disc. There are some other functions available like AVG, MIN and MAX. Just check it out.
Hi Kristof,
Thanks for these details. I found the available tags by just looking at existing charts, I never thought of checking this XSD file for options!
Now there is a graphical tool out of the box in NAV2013 so I don't plan to maintain this one but this is good input for anyone still using this tool, thanks!