Old trace logs in your dreams

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

Joshua — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:19:40 GMT

@12BitSlab: You don't know yet, do you. String the timeline. Charles Babbage. Alonzo Church. Raymond Chen.

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

Draco_Bengali — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:57:44 GMT

Raymond, sorry to drag up an old post, but just wanted to thank you and let you know that "Microsoft Money crashes..." from November of last year just saved my sanity, and Money.

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

cheong00 — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:54:34 GMT

Haven't used punch card system, but does "just placing half deck of cards" equivalent to setting a breakpoint? How about using things like Blu-Tack to make sure the next card is stuck at the card feeder?

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

12BitSlab — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:14:22 GMT

@ dave, yup. It was an NCR 315. I worked on those MANY years ago. The operator would actually deliver a dump in the form of cards to programmers in a tray. Maybe Raymond is much older than he lets on???? :)

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

dave — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:55:57 GMT

@12BitSlab

I cheated.

en.wikipedia.org/.../Slab_%28NCR%29

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

Mike — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:30:32 GMT

But a breakpoint in a dream in a dream would not be discovered as being a dream, as the dream in a dream would be the one to take the focus. So you'll be on your way with your dream, without being disturbed. :)

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

John Ludlow — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:59:44 GMT

Over the weekend I dreamed that I got a letter telling me I had to join the army. Disconcerting given that I am definitely not soldier material (5AM is not actually a real time - the universe ceases to exist at 2AM, and doesn't pop into existence again until 7:30AM). Also disconcerting once I remembered that I live in the UK, which does not have National Service.

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

12BitSlab — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:59:25 GMT

In the olden days, I could get both a dump and a trace output to cards. That was on a 20k word (yes, 20k words) "mainframe". That machine didn't even use an 8 bit byte. It used 12 bit slabs. In that 12 bit slab, one could store 3 4 bit digits or 2 6-bit alphas.

So, maybe your "dream" was real.

anyone know which machine I referenced?

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

Horst Kiehl — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:56:01 GMT

Wouldn't a breakpoint in a dream be the moment you recognize it as a dream? I guess that would make lucid dreaming debugging (or at least tracing) the dream.

re: Old trace logs in your dreams

Mormegil — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:13:26 GMT

Do androids have breakpoints in their dreams?