Visual Studio 2010 enhancements

re: Visual Studio 2010 enhancements

ahmad — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:56:06 GMT

good

re: Visual Studio 2010 enhancements

Sumit Kumar [Viusal C++ Team] — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:38:47 GMT

@ Marcello – reg. the Class View bug

Thanks again for your continued feedback via the comments on this blog post and via emails.

Regarding the issues you are seeing in SP1 -

a)Currently, the members from the base classes in the implicit headers are not shown in the Class View. As you mentioned in your email, this makes the information more readable by scoping it to the contents in your project. And in cases where this is not sufficient, directly including the implicit header files in your project enables showing the members from the base classes in those files. In the future releases we will explore making this feature more flexible by having the ability to include/exclude the implicit headers.

b)You are correct, this is a remaining bug that we will address in a future release of Visual Studio. One alternative in the current state is to complete the picture transitively – by expanding the base type nodes in the top pane and observing their members in the bottom pane successively.

I sincerely hope that your problems are mitigated and you are unblocked from adopting Visual Studio 2010. Please continue to share your feedback – it really helps us in improving our product.

Thanks

Sumit Kumar

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Jeff — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:39:02 GMT

@Marcello,

Thanks for taking time to provide specific and thoughtful feedback on Help Viewer 1.1. The intended benefit of displaying search results alongside help content is that you can iteratively refine your search query without displacing your current topic. The divider is adjustable and lets you widen the search results pane to display more results. I do understand your criticisms of this approach. I will review all of your suggestions – including sorting, filtering and hiding/pinning – with our engineering team for consideration in a future release of the Help Viewer.

Thanks,

Jeff Braaten, Library Experience Team

http://www.thirdblogfromthesun.com

re: Visual Studio 2010 enhancements

Marcello — Sat, 19 Mar 2011 05:21:47 GMT

I found the new Help Viewer 1.1 not as good as the old Document Explorer:

1. Search results are displayed in a column not in a new Window that would be easier to read.

2. After a search, with the Help Viewer window maximized, it shows about 6.5 hits in the results tab. These results are not easy to read because they are displayed in a newspaper column format. The number of hits is also missing.

Compared to searching in the MSDN Library Oct 2001, I got 35 hits, that are nearly 300% more information plus the results include Location and #Rank.

3. It is not possible to sort the results by rank, title, etc;

4. It is not possible to filter the results by subsets, even MSDN library in the HTmlHelp (Chm) format had that functionality.

5. It is not possible to hide / pin the left pane.

re: Visual Studio 2010 enhancements

Marcello — Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:12:58 GMT

@Sumit-

I have VS2010 + SP1 and with the class viewer configured to show public members, and inherited members.

a) Inherited members from MFC classes are hidden ( when a class is derived from and MFC class).

b) Public member functions and variables from base classes past the 2nd level of inheritance are hidden: the class viewer shows only the members from the previous 2 classes.

For example:

In the Derived3 -> Base1 class members are hidden

In the Derived4 -> Base1 and Derived1 class members are hidden.

Base1->Derived1->Derived2->Derived3->Derived4

re: Visual Studio 2010 enhancements

Diego Dagum (Visual C++ Community PM) — Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:10:04 GMT

Hi @gph, we'd have loved to get C++/CLI IntelliSense fixed in the SP1 timeframe. We recently announced that it's coming for sure in the next major release of Visual Studio. Please check this blog post ( blogs.msdn.com/.../10136696.aspx ) as it answers the fundamental questions about this feature: why has been removed and why takes so long to get it back? We'll keep talking about this one and other news in our blog ( http://blogs.msdn.com/vcblog ).

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gph — Tue, 15 Mar 2011 03:32:59 GMT

Still no intellisense for C++/CLI!?!?!?! WTF?

re: Visual Studio 2010 enhancements

Sumit Kumar [Visual C++ Team] — Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:03:30 GMT

@ Marcello

Are you seeing this problem in the final release of Visual Studio 2010 SP1 or in the Beta release? I ask because this fix was not included in the Beta release of SP1. The final release of SP1 has a fix for this bug. Also, please make sure to check the ‘Show Inherited Members’ option in the settings for Class View and Object Browser.

If you continue to see this problem in the final release of Visual Studio 2010 SP1, please contact me at sumit dot kumar at microsoft dot com. I will work with you to investigate further.

Thanks for your feedback.

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LMK — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:15:22 GMT

@GT et al:

I think commenters are missing the point about the Chrome/VS comparison. The comparison is around the release philosophies of each... MS releases seldom, but produces countless bolt-ons ("extensions") and service packs that make for an incredibly complex ecosystem. Get the mix wrong and VS becomes even more unreliable than it is out of the box (speaking from experience).

This is why IE9 is doomed to failure - yes, it may gave caught up to Chrome but it will rapidly fall behind again. It can only ever play catch up.

I would far prefer the Chrome model for VS, of new features and bug fixes every couple of months, instead of painful "big bangs" every few years. Yes, a few bugs will slip through. But hey, there are plenty in there now...

Note I am NOT suggesting the underlying framework should be updated more regularly... quite the opposite. In fact I wish this pace would slow down. A lot of features released in new versions could probably be built into the compilers and/or libraries we could bundle with our software.

I love the .Net languages but MS needs to get with the times or someone else will do it better...

re: Visual Studio 2010 enhancements

Te — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:04:43 GMT

How do i link parameter to report?