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Smartcard in 2008 and Vista..National ID card? No UPN? No EKU? No problem!

Smartcard in 2008 and Vista..National ID card? No UPN? No EKU? No problem!

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I recently worked on an issue which combined a number of the things I enjoy about my job.  New technology, interesting problem and satisfied customers.

 

Here was the problem.

 

A country in the EU is rolling out national identity cards.  They want to use these cards for all sorts of transactions, including logging into private corp domains.

Previously this would have been impossible due to somewhat restrictive requirements for domain logon.

First, lets summarize the problems.

 

1. Since it is a government issued card, the private companies obviously have no control over the issuing CA's or the Root.

2. The cards have no UPN or subject alternate name.

3. The cards have no AT_KEYEXCHANGE key type.

4. The CRLs , may or may not be available.

5. The card does not specify the EKU \ App OID - 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.20.2.2 - which is Smart Card logon.

 

There is no way XP or 2003 would ever work for what they wanted.

 

However, put 2008 and Vista together and you have a great solution.

 

Here is an outline for the solution.

 

1. Create 2008 domain controller.

2. Join Vista SP1

3. Install Card Module

4. Configure a group policy as follows:

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Figure 1

 

 

The important settings are:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\SmartCardCredentialProvider

AllowCertificatesWithNoEKU = 1

AllowSignatureOnlyKeys = 1

ForceReadingAllCertificates = 1

I then linked this policy to both the DCs and the client machines - see figure 2

 

 

For a real deployment you should link it at the domain level.

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Figure 2

 

I also set the keys noted in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887578 you need to set these on the KDC and on the client ( note the different location depending on the client versus DC )

UseCachedCRLOnlyAndIgnoreRevocationUnknownErrors

CRLTimeoutPeriod

Please use common sense here - yes CRL checks will fail.

 

For smartcard logon, the client machine checks the DC cert, and the DC checks the smartcard client cert.

Due to the nature of the disjointed management, CRL locations etc.. we disabled any failures based off of CRL checks.  I guess one can revoke ones citizenship... but I think you have bigger issues in your life if you had that happen.

( See the Appendix section for exact reg values etc.. exported directly from this config.)

 

There were 2 CA's in the cert path - a root and intermediate. However we could not reliably connect to any of them. We should think of them as dead. We do not control them nor can we dictate where or what they publish.

I imported the root cert into my ROOT store on the Domain Controller and on the Vista clients:

 

C:\temp\>certutil -addstore ROOT root1.cer

ROOT
Signature matches Public Key
Certificate "CN=TEST MyCountry Root CA, C=MY " added to store.
CertUtil: -addstore command completed successfully.

 

I imported the issuing into my intermediate store:

C:\temp\>certutil -addstore CA root2.cer
CA
Certificate "SERIALNUMBER=200501, CN=TEST Citizen CA, C=MY " added to store.
CertUtil: -addstore command completed successfully.

 

I imported the issuing CA into the NTAuth store as well. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281245 for more info on that.

 

 

At this point we should be good to go - except for one last item.

 

This was the subject on the cert:

 

Subject:
SERIALNUMBER=71717100052
G=SPAT 12345
SN=TEST
CN=SPAT TEST (Authentication)
C=MY

 

There was no SAN with a UPN - how were we to match the logon with a user?

You need to use cert mapping.

  1. Open AD users and computers.
  2. Check to use the Advanced Features.

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    3. Right click the user you want to map this card to and choose name mappings.

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    4. Now go ahead and choose the certificate you want to map to.

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How did I get the cert? I exported the public portion ( of course you can't export the private key data ) via "certutil -scinfo"

You can also grab it from the local users cert store once cert propagation took place.

After you have imported the cert to the user you will see the following attribute populated:

Dn: CN=geert,OU=EID,DC=skynet,DC=local
accountExpires: 9223372036854775807 (never);
altSecurityIdentities: X509:<I>C=MY,CN=TEST Citizen CA,SERIALNUMBER=200501<S>C=MY ,CN=SPAT TEST(Authentication),SN=TEST,G=SPAT 12345,SERIALNUMBER=71717100052;
badPasswordTime: 0 (never);
badPwdCount: 0;
cn: geert;
codePage: 0;
countryCode: 0;
displayName: geert;
distinguishedName: CN=geert,OU=EID,DC=skynet,DC=local;
dSCorePropagationData: 0x0 = ( );
givenName: geert;
instanceType: 0x4 = ( WRITE );
lastLogoff: 0 (never);
lastLogon: 4/14/2008 7:10:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time;
logonCount: 13;
name: geert;
objectCategory: CN=Person,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=skynet,DC=local; objectClass (4): top; person; organizationalPerson; ser;
objectGUID: 4964aa8e-e82b-4ca5-bf69-2a753917cde2;
objectSid: S-1-5-21-3046753738-575175152-1907242857-1110;
primaryGroupID: 513 = ( GROUP_RID_USERS );
pwdLastSet: 4/4/2008 12:06:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time;
sAMAccountName: geert;
sAMAccountType: 805306368 = ( NORMAL_USER_ACCOUNT );
userAccountControl: 0x200 = ( NORMAL_ACCOUNT );
userPrincipalName: geert@skynet.local;
uSNChanged: 20635;
uSNCreated: 20629;
whenChanged: 4/4/2008 12:19:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time;
whenCreated: 4/4/2008 12:06:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time;

Once we set all these and rebooted - we continued to fail the logon. Sigh…

Time to bust out Mr debugger....I looked at what the Base CSP was calling for.  Took a little while but here was the eventual failure code

0: kd> KL
ChildEBP RetAddr 
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
01d6ebec 73b8b418 AZeBeIDMDRV!CardGetProperty
01d6ee78 73b8b603 basecsp!GetCachedCardProperty+0x138
01d6eea0 73b83889 basecsp!CspQueryKeySizes+0x42
01d6ef4c 73b81cbb basecsp!BuildSupportedAlgorithmsList+0x12a
01d6ef90 73b81bc6 basecsp!LocalGetProvParam+0x25c
01d6efd4 768e7723 basecsp!CPGetProvParam+0x42
01d6f024 75bf8586 ADVAPI32!CryptGetProvParam+0x4c
01d6f040 75be3213 kerberos!ScHelperGetProvParam+0x27
01d6f0a4 75be53df kerberos!__ScHelperGetSmartCardAlgorithms+0x5e
01d6f1e8 75bc5f13 kerberos!KerbBuildPkinitPreauthData+0x11e
01d6f270 75b9db74 kerberos!KerbBuildPreAuthData+0x8b
01d6f2f8 75b9cc97 kerberos!KerbGetPreAuthDataForRealm+0x13a
01d6f568 75b9d701 kerberos!KerbGetAuthenticationTicketEx+0x652
01d6f630 75babf8f kerberos!KerbGetTicketGrantingTicket+0x212
01d6f918 76161cfa kerberos!LsaApLogonUserEx2+0x1034
01d6f9e4 7613d34d LSASRV!NegLogonUserEx2+0x3cb
01d6fbc4 7613d071 LSASRV!LsapAuApiDispatchLogonUser+0x529
01d6fbd4 76165fd1 LSASRV!LpcLsaLogonUser+0x15
01d6fc94 76387ff9 LSASRV!DispatchAPIDirect+0x185
01d6fd64 7616289a Secur32!LsaLogonUser+0xe8

Here is a quick architectural diagram stolen from MSDN.. it shows you where the card module comes into play.

Smart card selection heuristics

 

When we call CardGetProperty we were specifying the following: CP_CARD_KEYSIZES and dwFlags AT_SIGNATURE and then we would query for AT_KEYEXCHANGE.

We would succeed on the signature query but fail the exchange query.

Well , this particular identity card will only ever have AT_SIGNATURE, so the developer was returning SCARD_E_UNSUPPORTED_FEATURE when it was queried for AT_KEYEXCHANGE.

Once the card module returned SCARD_E_UNSUPPORTED_FEATURE - we translated that to Kerberos on the client as STATUS_SMARTCARD_SUBSYSTEM_FAILURE

Note:

We may have an issue here - I did look into it a little bit and from a card module perspective is certainly is OK to return that we don’t support AT_KEYEXCHANGE.

However - the new policies also allow us to have a card which only has AT_SIGNATURE ( in previous OS's the SC cert needed to have AT_KEYEXCHANGE see

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281245 )

"There are two predefined types of private keys. These keys are Signature Only(AT_SIGNATURE) and Key Exchange(AT_KEYEXCHANGE). Smartcard logon certificates must have a Key Exchange(AT_KEYEXCHANGE) private key type in order for smartcard logon to function correctly."

 

 

Up until now - we had not even gotten a chance to talk to the KDC.

Anyway, once we changed this to return supported we finally got around to calling the KDC and… again was still failing the logon . Sigh...

 

 

Here was the error:

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kerberos-Key-Distribution-Center
Date: 4/14/2008 3:07:26 PM
Event ID: 21
Task Category: None
Level: Warning
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: 2k8entspat.skynet.local
Description:
The client certificate for the user SKYNET0\geert is not valid, and resulted in a failed smartcard logon. Please contact the user for more information about the certificate they're attempting to use for smartcard logon. The chain status
was : The certificate is not valid for the requested usage.

 

In order to correct this I set the following registry key on the KDC.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936358

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Locate the following registry subkey:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Kdc

3. Right-click Kdc, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
4. Type SCLogonEKUNotRequired, and then press ENTER.
5. On the Edit menu, click Modify.
6. In the Value data box, type 1, and then click OK.
7. Exit Registry Editor.

 

Now - I can logon but it hangs at logging in for about 15 minutes before logon ( at least it seems like 15 minutes )

Looking at the threads I can see that they are performing a number of LDAP and HTTP lookups for CRL's which they will never be able to get to.

I reset CRLTimeoutPeriod ( under HKEY_Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\Kerberos\Parameters\CRLTimeoutPeriod ) to a value of 1 and now we can logon in a reasonable time.

 

APPENDIX

 

 

reg entries - please note that the "policies" key\values should be set via the GPO's discussed earlier.

 

Vista Client:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\Kerberos\Parameters]
"UseCachedCRLOnlyAndIgnoreRevocationUnknownErrors"=dword:00000001
"CRLTimeoutPeriod"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\SmartCardCredentialProvider]
"AllowCertificatesWithNoEKU"=dword:00000001
"AllowSignatureOnlyKeys"=dword:00000001
"ForceReadingAllCertificates"=dword:00000001

 

 

 

Domain Controller Reg Entries:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\kdc]
"UseCachedCRLOnlyAndIgnoreRevocationUnknownErrors"=dword:00000001
"SCLogonEKUNotRequired"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\Kerberos\Parameters]
"UseCachedCRLOnlyAndIgnoreRevocationUnknownErrors"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\SmartCardCredentialProvider]
"AllowCertificatesWithNoEKU"=dword:00000001
"AllowSignatureOnlyKeys"=dword:00000001
"ForceReadingAllCertificates"=dword:00000001

 

Various web resources..

 

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/guidance/identitymanagement/smrtcdcb/default.mspx -The Smart Card Deployment Cookbook

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms953432.aspx - The Smart Card Cryptographic Service Provider Cookbook

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936358 - SCLogonEKUNotRequired

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281245 - third party smartcard logon

http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/c/5/9c5b2167-8017-4bae-9fde-d599bac8184a/sc-minidriver_specs_V6-final.docx - card module specs

http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/c/5/9c5b2167-8017-4bae-9fde-d599bac8184a/sc-minidriver_certreqs.doc

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb905527.aspx - Windows Vista Smart Card Infrastructure

 

 

Certificate from ID card as a reference to what we were trying to get to logon:


X509 Certificate:
Version: 3
Serial Number: 01000000000115d1d292a9
Signature Algorithm:
Algorithm ObjectId: 1.2.840.113549.1.1.5 sha1RSA
Algorithm Parameters:
05 00

Issuer:
SERIALNUMBER=200501
CN= TEST Citizen CA
C=MY

NotBefore: 10/24/2007 4:42 AM
NotAfter: 10/24/2009 4:42 AM

Subject:
SERIALNUMBER=71717100052
G=SPAT 12345
SN=TEST
CN=SPAT TEST (Authentication)
C=MY
Public Key Algorithm:

Algorithm ObjectId: 1.2.840.113549.1.1.1 RSA (RSA_SIGN)
Algorithm Parameters:
05 00

Public Key Length: 1024 bits
Public Key: UnusedBits = 0
0000 30 81 89 02 81 81 00 81 38 f4 f7 c8 d7 69 ce c5
0010 08 8d b1 42 a6 88 aa 8d 3f 0c 5b a0 6e 44 a1 b7
0020 df 85 fc fe 42 fc 00 d0 d8 01 88 22 32 47 12 68
0030 e1 c3 34 d3 30 70 87 ac 43 b1 d4 b3 f1 26 6e e3
0040 dd 62 6c 67 b6 0d ff ec c4 b0 d2 b8 fa da 9c 6e
0050 e9 9c b0 8b cf ba bf 8d 1f 74 89 48 d1 e0 6f 9b
0060 ab bb e5 53 99 19 d0 58 fb ed 3c f1 c3 4c a2 2b
0070 c9 8d 13 41 0d 7e cf 95 b1 31 80 bd 4e 38 1b fb
0080 e3 11 49 c1 55 e5 31 02 03 01 00 01

Certificate Extensions: 6

2.5.29.35: Flags = 0, Length = 18
Authority Key Identifier
KeyID=d6 a5 fe 65 26 bf 28 6c 16 15 d7 fa 7e 3d da 9f a9 ee 7d 1d

1.3.6.1.5.5.7.1.1: Flags = 0, Length = 73
Authority Information Access
[1]Authority Info Access
Access Method=Certification Authority Issuer (1.3.6.1.5.5.7.48.2)
Alternative Name:
URL=http://certs.test-eid.mycountry.eu/mycountry.crt

[2]Authority Info Access
Access Method=On-line Certificate Status Protocol (1.3.6.1.5.5.7.48.1)
Alternative Name:
URL=http://ocsp.test-eid.mycountry.eu

2.5.29.32: Flags = 0, Length = 48
Certificate Policies
[1]Certificate Policy:
Policy Identifier=0.3.2062.7.1.1.401.1
[1,1]Policy Qualifier Info:
Policy Qualifier Id=CPS
Qualifier:
http://repository.test-eid.mycountry.eu

2.5.29.31: Flags = 0, Length = 3b
CRL Distribution Points
[1]CRL Distribution Point
Distribution Point Name:
Full Name:
URL=http://crl.test-eid.mycountry.eu/eidc200501.crl

2.5.29.15: Flags = 1(Critical), Length = 4
Key Usage
Digital Signature (80)

2.16.840.1.113730.1.1: Flags = 0, Length = 4
Netscape Cert Type
SSL Client Authentication, SMIME (a0)
Signature Algorithm:
Algorithm ObjectId: 1.2.840.113549.1.1.5 sha1RSA
Algorithm Parameters:
05 00

CardGetProperty

 

Description:

The function is modeled after the query functions of CAPI for keys. It takes a LPWSTR indicating which parameter is being requested. It then returns data written into pbData:

DWORD WINAPI CardGetProperty(

    IN   PCARD_DATA      pCardData,

    IN   LPWSTR          wszProperty,

    OUT  PBYTE           pbData,

    IN   DWORD           cbData,

    OUT  PDWORD          pdwDataLen,

    IN   DWORD           dwFlags

);

 

Input:

pCardData                   Address of CARD_DATA structure.

wszProperty              LPWSTR indicating which property is requested.

pdData                         Byte pointer to data buffer to receive the data.

cbData                          Length of input buffer.

pdwDataLen              Pointer to a DWORD receiving the actual data length returned.

dwFlags                       Flags.

Output:

Return value              Zero on success; nonzero on failure.

Comments:

·         CardGetProperty should check the dwFlags value. Unless dwFlags is specified for the property and the value is nonzero, it should fail and return SCARD_E_INVALID_PARAMETER.

·         If an unsupported wszProperty is passed to CardGetProperty, it should fail and return SCARD_E_INVALID_PARAMETER. Implementing all of the following properties is mandatory unless explicitly stated otherwise. Any minidriver can choose to define and support optional custom properties that are not defined in this specification.

·         If cbData is less than the length of the buffer to be returned, CardGetProperty should return ERROR_INSUFFICIENT_BUFFER.

 

Important note:
Careful attention must be taken when returning
CP_READ_ONLY_CARD as true. When this property is returned as true, all write operations to the card are blocked at the BaseCSP layer.

 

·         The format of pbData is different depending on the wszProperty parameter that is passed to the function. The following table is a list of the different types that pbData takes depending on wszProperty (the structures are serialized as byte arrays).

 

wszProperty

pbData type

pbData value

CP_CARD_FREE_SPACE



typedef struct _CARD_FREE_SPACE_INFO

{

    DWORD     dwVersion;

    DWORD     dwBytesAvailable;

    DWORD     dwKeyContainersAvailable;

    DWORD     dwMaxKeyContainers;

 

) CARD_FREE_SPACE_INFO, *PCARD_FREE_SPACE_INFO;

CP_CARD_CAPABILITIES

 

typedef struct _CARD_CAPABILITIES

{

    DWORD     dwVersion;

    BOOL      fCertificateCompression;

    BOOL      fKeyGen;

)

CARD_CAPABILITIES, *PCARD_CAPABILITIES;

CP_CARD_KEYSIZES



dwFlags indicates key type to be queried. This is one of the AT_* defined values, for example, AT_SIGNATURE or AT_ECDSA_P256.

typedef struct _CARD_KEY_SIZES

{

    DWORD     dwVersion;

    DWORD     dwMinimumBitlen;

    DWORD     dwDefaultBitlen;

    DWORD     dwMaximumBitlen;

    DWORD     dwIncrementalBitlen;

)

CARD_KEY_SIZES, *PCARD_KEY_SIZES;

CP_CARD_READ_ONLY

BOOL

If True, all write operations are blocked at the CSP layer.

This flag also affects the data cache. If the card indicates that it is read only, the BaseCSP/KSP does not write to the cardcf file.

CP_CARD_CACHE_MODE

DWORD

#define CP_CACHE_MODE_GLOBAL_CACHE      1

#define CP_CACHE_MODE_SESSION_ONLY      2

#define CP_CACHE_MODE_NO_CACHE          3

CP_SUPPORTS_WIN_X509
_ENROLLMENT

BOOL

Indicates whether Windows PKI should be allowed to write or renew certificates on the card. This should be used to avoid unexpected results due to lack of support for multiple PINs in Windows PKI enrollment client.

CP_CARD_GUID

BYTE[]

In this case, pbData is a buffer containing a unique GUID for the card. This value must exactly match the GUID contained in the “cardid” file.

CP_CARD_SERIAL_NO

BYTE[]

In this case, pbData is a buffer containing a serial number for the card. The format of the serial number is opaque to the BaseCSP and is intended for other applications that query the card minidriver directly.

This is an optional property that may or may not be supported by the card.

CP_CARD_PIN_INFO

PIN_INFO

In this case, pbData is a PIN_INFO structure containing information about the PIN. The dwFlags parameter contains the identifier of the PIN to return.

CP_CARD_LIST_PINS

PIN_SET

In this case, pbData contains a PIN_SET indicating by a bit-mask what entities the card currently uses.

CP_CARD_AUTHENTICATED
_STATE

PIN_SET

In this case, pbData contains a PIN_SET indicating by a bit-mask what entities the card currently authenticates.

This is an optional property that may or may not be supported by the card.

CP_CARD_PIN_STRENGTH
_VERIFY

 

In this case, pbData contains a bit mask of one or more of the following values:

·         CARD_PIN_STRENGTH_PLAINTEXT - Card can accept a plaintext PIN for authentication.

·         CARD_PIN_STRENGTH_SESSION_PIN – Card can generate a session PIN that can be used for subsequent authentications.

·         The dwFlags parameter contains the identifier of the PIN to return.

 

The following points apply to PIN strength:

·         Currently the PIN strength is ignored for EmptyPinType and ChallengeResponsePinType.

·         Even if CARD_PIN_STRENGTH_SESSION_PIN is set for a PIN, the plaintext PIN must also be accepted for authentication. This is because trusted processes in Windows may use the plaintext PIN.

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  • ::There is no way XP or 2003 would ever work for what they wanted.

    Actually, this is very doable. With Estonian ID card, we have been logging onto Windows domains since 2002 or so, and the card IS read-only. The catch is to reuse the keys on smartcard, not certificates. Basically all normal smart card usage scenarios ( encryption , logon, VPN etc ) have been enabled.

    Its actually been a bit more difficult to get things going with Vista.

  • So do you use a custom Gina for logon? You dont use an EKU or UPN etc.. so I assume you process the logon via some other code paths. all of this functionality is right out of the box for Vista\2k8... granted, some of the functionality is there is 2k3 but most of it is not ( least I dont think so )

     What kind of issues are you having with Vista?

    thx

    spat

  • no we dont use custom Gina, all standard. The custom part is a somewhat "unconventional" CSP.

    The trick is something like that:

    we use Certificate services to issue certificates, for an EXISTING smart card key ( the ActiveX that does issuing has such flag, to use existing keys )

    Of course, as the card is read only, the CSP does not have any place to put the issued certificate on the card .. but there are ways out. our CSP takes this issued cert and it can store it to several places, to AD user object attribute, FTP server, or local cached file.

    And when the logon process requests the certificate, it is again retrieved from that storage. There is a card ID to cert mapping mechanism ( by file name, by some other AD object attibute etc )

    All crypto operations are done normally with smart card.

    So EKU, UPN and all that are taken care of, as the Certificates in use are all issued by Windows Cert Server, exactly like with general purpose smart cards.

    It was just a matter of tweaking up a preexisting CSP code.

    With Vista, getting a working and certificed card module has been a .. PITA. Because of the several revisions that were rushed out, a whole bunch of cruft has to be built into card module that does not have any direct relation to basic functionality, so thats our difficulty there. And the card key/pin/certificate access rights and layout did not fit well into the Cardmodule/minidriver model at first, so a whole lot of hacks and virtualization and so on had to be put in place.

    I still havent managed to pass the entire certification suite for the thing, and its not for the lack of trying.

  • Just as an aside, we DO have a custom GINA module also for folks who are running their Win2k/XP networks in NT4 or Samba domain without AD still, in there it works more like a wallet ( basically password is encrypted for the smart card key ) and has nothing to do with Kerberos tickets, PKINIT and all that.

    Another ( harebrained ) solution is a crossbrowser password wallet, that also stores users loginnames/passwords to different websites in a centrally stored container protected by a smartcard key.

    So lots of fun stuff is doable with these simple readonly smartcards, if you just use the cards as encryption/decryption devices. some backup keys and fallback cards have to be in the system of course for large deployments but thats all doable too.

     

    [spat]

    Again - interesting use of CSP and keys.. thanks so much for the interesting reading

  • Ahh very interesting. However I think the main point is that you said:

    "So EKU, UPN and all that are taken care of, as the Certificates in use are all issued by Windows Cert Server, exactly like with general purpose smart cards."

    In this case there is no EKU\UPN etc.. in fact the government could care less to implement that because it is not a main focus of the card I suppose. There is really no control over what type of cert is issues ( see the cert dump in the appendix section)

    Although I must say, you have a rather unique method of gettting around that matter. In your case you do not control the card either - it is read only, however you decided to piggyback on its data creating an internal cert reference which is issued and pulled when needed ( logon, signing etc.. )

    If I have this incorrect let me know - very cool workaround on your part.  Depending on the Estonia read only cert on the card you may be able to use the methods I outline here to get rid of the CSP->cert->card mappings. if you wanted to ( at least for logon.. I havent tried other functions like client auth etc.. )

  • ::Depending on the Estonia read only cert on the card you may be able to use the methods I outline here to get rid of the CSP->cert->card mappings.

    Well, it sorta works already, but like i said the minidriver isnt certified yet, mainly because minidriver framework has been quite inflexible with its assumptions on how a smar card ought to work. Our card has two keys, protected by separate PINs, and up until v6 of minidriver spec this just didnt fly at all. Even with v6 its still sort of a kludge.

    With the CSP framework, although at first blush more complicated to implement, i had lots more freedom.

    Here is a related question which i have been trying to get an answer to: is there a system-wide mechanism in Vista where i could hook a custom action for notifications about Smart Card insertion and removal ? Like a WMI event, some notification package .. anything ?

    In 2K/XP Winlogon broadcast such notifications to winlogon notification packages, but SC events were never propagated ( even if Gina modules receive them ). IIRC i have tried three different methods, with no luck.

    So to do custom actions when smart card is removed, that cannot be performed with default policies ( like clearing the registered certificated from personal stores, resetting the browser or stuff like that ) i need to run a separate process or service that sits in SCardGetStatusChange, which has proven a really flaky method.

  • Hi Kert,

    From a notification package or a service how do u know whether a user has logged in through smart card or not?

    I thought one way of getting to know whether the user has logged on through smart card or not ( not by writing a custom gina or a CSP) is by calling LsaGetLogonSessionData and check whether the UPN is populated or not, but in Vista how do I handle it?

    Thanks in advance.

  • Thanks Kert for your great work around on XP, I have been look for another way besides using a custom GINA!

    Has anyone else tried it this other eID cards?

    Is your CSP code open source? would you be able to post somewhere?

    Thanks in advance.

  • We have three forests.  There are trusts between two of them but not the third which is a test & development environment. But I need to use our production smart card in all three for authentication.

    So I have a UPN in the production smart card auth cert: userid1@prod.domain. How do we trust & authenticate our smart cards in that 3rd environment (test.domain)?

  • Hi Dave

    You would use something like this:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281245

    And ensure that the UPN on the account in the test\dev user matched the smart card

    spat

  • Hi Spat,

    Great article! Any idea if this still works on a Windows 7 client (and Windows 2008 server)?

    Thanks

    Mat

  • Yup works on Win7 and  2k8

  • Hi thanks for the Guide. I have try the settings and it works in my situation....

    Many Thanks... You are the best :)

  • Hi There, Does anybody know how to make a mapping with SmartCard PIN and PSO? ( windows 2008 server enterprise Edition )

    What i want to reach is as follow.

    I have Cisco VPN concentrator 3000, its authenticates with microsoft username and password (MSVCHAP V2).

    When i use my Windows Logon with Smart Card and the PIN it works. But when i Use My VPN client and use the same PIN i got acces denied.

    So can SOMEone Please Please Help me?

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