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CAD Integration in Visio - Part 2

CAD Integration in Visio - Part 2

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In the previous post we reviewed the problems users were encountering with the CAD Integration feature set in Visio 2003 and the fixes that were made in Visio 2007.  In this post we look at the remaining issues with CAD and Visio.

 

 

Converting CAD drawings to Visio shapes

Visio 2003 changed the way that CAD drawings are converted to Visio shapes.  Instead of converting each entity and adding it as a Visio shape, the entities are converted in bulk to an intermediate document and then the entire document is merged into the current drawing in one big Paste operation.  This change makes conversion up to 10 times faster – a significant improvement.  However, Visio now requires quite a bit more memory to accomplish the task.  On PCs without sufficient memory, performance degrades because Visio must page memory to disk. 

 

Additionally we have found that some really large CAD files fail to convert.  There is a limit to the number of entities that can be converted at once, though this limit is not easily expressed as a quantifiable number.  Unfortunately the failure comes near the end of the lengthy operation rather than at the beginning.  Visio 2007 does not remedy this situation.  Your best bet is to divide up the diagram into more layers and then convert the layers individually.  While Visio should handle this situation better, keep in mind that CAD programs are designed to deal with hundreds of thousands of simple entities and Visio is designed to deal with thousands of complex entities.  It's difficult to scale up to support the largest CAD drawings out there.  Simplifying the drawing before bringing it into Visio is recommended.

 

 

DWG file formats supported by Visio

A frequent complaint from users is that Visio refuses to open a DWG file because it was saved in a newer format.  Visio 2003 and 2007 do not support the latest file formats used in AutoCAD programs.  That means CAD files must be saved back to a compatible version before they can be used with Visio.  Visio 2003 and 2007 support the R15 version of the DWG format.  This was the default format used by AutoCAD 2000 and AutoCAD 2002.  Newer versions of AutoCAD save to newer versions of the DWG format by default.

 

Additionally, Visio does not support all the entities defined in the R15 version of the DWG format.  In terms of entity support, Visio handles the entities defined in the R14 version of the DWG format with a few exceptions.  A specific entity list is beyond the scope of this blog post.  The point is that the level of entity support and the version of the file format supported are not identical.

 

Note that there was a specific problem where files saved out from AutoCAD 2007 would not open in Visio 2007 even when saved back to the R15 format.  This was corrected in Visio 2007 SP1.

 

 

What's next for CAD integration 

It's too soon to announce our plans for the next release.  We continue to gather information from customers about their needs for CAD with Visio.  Your input on specific issues or the overall importance of CAD integration to your Visio usage is encouraged.

 

 

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  • Will anything be done to try and optimze shapes? A square box in Autocad may end up as four seperate Visio shapes, one for each side. So, it is necessary to repeatedly use the Join tool to simplify the generated Visio shapes.

  • John,

    In general, Visio will match entity for entity where it can.  Thus if a box in AutoCAD consists of four line segments, the converted drawing will consist of four Visio line shapes.  There is no attempt to interpret the drawing as representing a more complex symbol.

    Mark Nelson

  • This morning at Day 2 of Visio Conference 2008, we announced that the next version of Visio will add

  • Hi,

    Any update on the CAD integration improvements in Visio 2010.  I didn't see any noticeable change in Visio 2010 Beta1.  

    My issues are specific to Converting Visio Drawing into AutoCAD DWG, following are my main pain points

    1. Text entities inside a rotated/flipped shape (grouped) not appearing at the right location in the dwg/dxf output.

    2. Connection lines re-route and overlap other shapes in the dwg/dxf output.

    3. End properties of lines/dynamic connectors don’t convert properly in to dwg/dxf

    Regards,

    Biju George

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  • Hi Visio Team,

    I am using Visio 2010 to open AutoCAD(DWG) files and i need to place an image over the AutoCAD(DWG) drawing and save back to AutoCAD(DWG) file format.

    I achieved this up to adding the image on the file but if i save it back to AutoCAD format, the image is not getting saved.If i save the file in .vsd format i am able to view the image what i placed in the drawing.

    Please give me a solution for this..

    Thanks and Regards

    Abin Mathew

    abin.mathew@lnties.com

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