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As Soma announced on his blog this morning, Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4 have just launched! The Visual Studio team has been working on this release for more than two years and we’re extremely proud to announce the availability of the final RTM build!
MSDN Subscribers can download Visual Studio 2010 later today from MSDN, and non-MSDN subscribers can go here to get a copy of Visual Studio 2010. For those that want to take a test-drive, a 90-day trial version of all Visual Studio 2010 products can be downloaded here. Also, for the hobbyist developer, the free Visual Studio 2010 Express products are now available as well.
As always, we’re excited to hear your thoughts on this release. Please make sure to send your feedback via Connect or post comments to this blog.
Download and enjoy!
Downloaded and installed Visual Web Developer 2010 Express thinking it would be a free, lightweight version.
Installed it and got a "For Evaluation Purposes Only" message and when I check the "help->about" I see that it's a time limited version and I have 29 days remaining.
This MS fanboy is sad now. :(
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Just like in Visual Studio 2008, the Express SKUs require registration if you want to use after 30 days. This is a simple and free process that only takes a minute or two. Once registered you may use Express indefinitely.
I went through the registration process (from help->register).
It's all good now. No "evaluation purposes only" message and no expiration countdown!
Thanks for the response!
This MS fanboy is happy (elated?) again!
Congratulations on the launch !
It looks like we will finally get real successor of Visual Studio 6.0.
I got the "evalution version" message from the MSDN web download. I may be missing something, but it's not exactly clear on the links there that any of the versions are trial (there's something about it being available to certain MSDN levels, but my assumption was it's available if the link is there). Since it's MSDN (where I generally don't expect to see trial software), it would probably be a good idea to really emphasize the fact that it's not a full version and needs to be (re)purchased. Something like "EVALUATION VERSION" or "TRIAL" at the end of the product description.
As it stands, I don't know which (if any) of the MSDN downloads are actual, fully usable versions as I'm used to having access to with my subscription.
I was already using the RC occasionally and just installed RTM. One thing that's immediately noticeable is that font rendering (clear type) has improved dramatically. It looks totaly smooth and clean now, no more blurry fonts. The application is also a lot faster than the RC.
I already converted one of my large 2008 solutions. VS messed up some of my typed datasets with "DataSet Project" property set but I was able to fix it by manually running the "custom tool" on them. Besides some warnings about obsolete methods everything looks great now. Good job!
OMG. I can't believe you got rid of the MDI option. Have you gone completely crazy? How the hell can anyone work with enforced tabs? Does no one inside Microsoft have a monitor larger than about 1024x768 in size? How the hell do you look at two files at the same time using tabs?
VS2008, here I come!
I assure you we have monitors over 1024x768. As to how to view two files at the same time, have you tried
1: Undocking the files (and if using Win7 using the auto-snapping feature to snap each file to half screen)? Documents can be undocked in 2010, not so in 2008.
2: Undocking the files and putting them on seperate monitors (some of us even have more than *one* monitor that is greater than 1024x768, they spoil us so).
3: Choosing one of the files, right clicking on the tab and choosing 'New Vertical Tab Group' or 'New Horizontal Tab Group' if you are into that method of stacking.
MDI mode was indeed removed in 2010, but it was removed very early (it was definetly gone back in the Beta1 timeframe). I don't think we recieved any feedback about it not being included in the product to my knowledge. If you have a feature you are passionate about it is always a good idea to pick up at least one of the Betas. I can't guarantee earlier feedback would have necessarily 'saved' the feature, but lack of any feedback at all mentioning its absence certainly lent weight to our that it wasn't widely used. Sorry the lack of MDI has made you go back to 2008, any particular reason one of the above methods doesn't work and MDI would have been a superior option?
1: Do you really suggest that having to move the mouse to the tab, select 'float', resize the window, AND reposition the cursor (because floating resets it to the top) is a valid substitute for MDI mode? There's not even an option to make 'float' the default state, so this has to be done EVERY time a file is opened.
2: I have three monitors, and I assure you they all have things on them already. My centre monitor where I edit the code is 2560x1600 and in the new oh-so-wonderful model, at least 50% of that is whitespace by default because each and every file insists that it needs to be full screen.
3: See #1
In my experience feedback to Microsoft tends to not be worth the electrons it's written with. Public betas are always released pretty much after the product is set in stone. Hell, you got tons of feedback about not even being able to change the frigging colors and look how much work was put into addressing that before the reelase.
1: No I suggested you could float documents as a way to compare two side to side. I didn't say it was more optimal than MDI mode, simply an answer to 'how the hell do you look at two files at the same time'.
3: At least from what I can see New Vertical Tab Group appears to be remembered per sln, so you would have to do it one time. There would of course be the overhead of opening files and possibly moving them between tab groups (though you can right click and choose 'Move to next tab group' or 'Move to previous tab group' to 'flick' files back and forth between groups. However using MDI mode, as far as I know, you would have to do some initial arrangement to make the two documents line up next to each other and take as much space as you wanted each one to take anyways. Or is there some simple way to 'snap' two MDI documents side by side that I am not seeing in 2008?
>In my experience feedback to Microsoft tends to not be worth the electrons it's written with.
I can't speak to past experiences you've had with Microsoft, I know I personally and we (the IDE Shell team) take feedback very seriously. That said there are resource and time limitations that prevent us from doing everything we may like to do in a given release cycle. Like all software engineering it is a tradeoff between everything you WANT to do and what can be accomplished in the time you have with the resources that are available.
>Public betas are always released pretty much after the product is set in stone.
I think our beta cycles this release shows that statement to not be representative of VS. A HUGE amount of work went in to perf, bug fixing, even getting WPF to make rather large, unplanned for changes to their text stack between Betas, and even up to the 'last mintue'. This was all driven directly from customer feedback we receieved during the Beta timeframe.
>Hell, you got tons of feedback about not even being able to change the frigging colors and look how much work was put into addressing that before the reelase.
What do you mean by this exactly? There is this extension (http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/20cd93a2-c435-4d00-a797-499f16402378) which allows you to do color changes. Or is it something else I am missing? Could you point me to a Connect bug or some other form of feedback that might make it more clear what specifically the problem with colors was/is.
@Jon: "Do you really suggest that having to move the mouse to the tab, select 'float', resize the window, AND reposition the cursor (because floating resets it to the top) is a valid substitute for MDI mode?"
As a substitute for using the mouse, may I suggest some shortcut keys? (Alt+W, F) or (Alt+-, F) will float the editor window (and you can use Tools/Options/Environment/Keyboard to bind a direct shortcut if you wish so).
Then, if you have Win7, WinKey+LeftArrow / WinKey+RightArrow will allow you to quickly move the window between displays or to snap it half screen.
I also seem to remember an early extension or macro that tiled the opened windows on the available monitors (I can't find it now; if someone has the link, please post it)
> "My centre monitor where I edit the code is 2560x1600 and in the new oh-so-wonderful model, at least 50% of that is whitespace by default because each and every file insists that it needs to be full screen."
I think with a wide monitor it's best to use vertical tab groups, as Ryan suggested before. Use (Alt+W, V) to split the current window into a new vertical tabgroup, and that 50% of whitespace will be put to good use...
Hi, please release the VSX SDK.
@Paul The Visual Studio 2010 SDK (RTM) is available here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=47305cf4-2bea-43c0-91cd-1b853602dcc5
Visual Studio 2010! Quite a journey it has been! Good luck on making a bug-free SP1! Near the top of the list for SP1 I would put this bug: https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=509027 That bug renders 2010 unusable for me because it requires me to reach for the mouse every time I close a test results details window (something I do often), whereas in 2008 this bug does not occur.
And a hearty LOL @Jon for "In my experience feedback to Microsoft tends to not be worth the electrons it's written with."
When will international versions be released?