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Today, we're excited to announce that Visual Studio 11 Beta is now available for download.
Back in September, we announced the release of Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview and detailed the simplification efforts we made across the IDE, integration of the best and most popular features from the Productivity Power Tools and effort to improve project compatibility scenarios.
Since then, we've been busy improving and fine tuning experiences in Visual Studio and also addressing feedback and known issues from the Developer Preview. We’ve invested in performance improvements in the areas of responsiveness and memory utilization.
Take a look at what's new in Visual Studio 11 Beta and .NET Framework 4.5 Beta on MSDN and for a more in-depth discussion, see Jason Zander’s discussion of the Beta release . We also encourage you to check out the new Windows 8 App Developer Blog to learn more about how to build great Metro style apps for Windows 8.
Last week, we revealed the new developer experience (in Part 1, Part 2) and showed you screenshots of the new user interface, iconography, search capabilities and how we've streamlined common workflows. Many of you had a lot of passionate feedback on these posts. We have read all the comments, and you will hear more about this from us soon. In coming weeks, we’ll be using this blog to talk about many of the other specific features of Visual Studio 11.
Your feedback is an important part of our software development cycle. We review every comment that we receive and are constantly using this feedback to improve the product. Now that the Beta is available, we hope you will install and work with it, and continue to send us your feedback on how it all comes together.
If you encounter a bug or an issue, please report it through the Visual Studio, LightSwitch, and Blend Connect sites. We also want to hear your suggestions or feature ideas/improvements so please add your suggestions to UserVoice or vote on other user’s suggestions.
The Visual Studio Team
The gray text in ERROR LIST!!! and BREAKPOINTS!!! (SHUT UP!!!!) it's really hard to read in light theme.
Dark theme is better, but I don't like dark, I'm a Zealot, not Dark Templer!
And I can't find a way to edit those color.
However I managed to change the Auto, Watch, etc, font color to black, it's a lot clearer now.
Still there is no edit&continue in x64?
Do you know how long does it take to check a small code change in a SharePoint development? (compile, deploy(!), recycle appool(!), load sharepoint runtime(!), load debugger, many dlls, pdbs, start browser again, make a request, and so on)
Please! Edit&Continue in x64 would be very helpful.
Hello Microsoft! The whole design sucks! This is my feedback.
OMG, this design sucks!!! I like Metro, but in VS11 it's just ***!
There are quite a few new Extensibility features, including:
Private galleries: blogs.msdn.com/.../private-extension-galleries-for-the-enterprise.aspx
Other features include Declarative Binding Redirection, an extensive revision to the manifest designer, and other improvements are in, if interested please let us know and we'll provide more details. Thanks!
The dark theme is simply beautiful!
I have installed developer preview, but it seemed so overwhelming. And I have ended uninstalling it quickly. The beta version surely will stay until it expires (or until express version will be available for win7).
Developing Metro apps in VS 11 is a horrible experience, sorry.
When you debug the application it goes full screen (you cannot see debug output).
I don't know how to step code and view the result in the UI at the same time - maybe with dual monitor support, but seriously ?
When you exit the application, it does not return to VS 11 - it returns to Metro Start Screen!
I'm sorry, but I'll stick to developing good old Desktop applications for now.
My considered feedback is that the new monochromatic icons make me want to claw my eyes out.
You MUST provide at least the option to bring back the original theme, with toolbar icons that we're not just used to, but can actually decipher.
And please eliminate the all caps, the strings of colons, and put some lines back.
Really, this is completely unusable, makes my eyes HURT, and makes it frustrating to have to try and mouse-over every stupid icon to try and figure out what it is.
This is just awful.
I like the chrome - sorta... CAPS = BAD. I want my colored icons back in the solution explorer. It's very hard to glance over and tell what file is what, what is checked in or out of source control. I understand the metro desire to simplify but what you guys don't seem to understand is you just undid almost 10+ years worth of training your user base around branded icons.
There really should be a better balance between 'simplify' and 'visual indicator'.
Also, I forgot to put this line:
OMG Project properties dialog didn't change a bit? That's the less readable interface in the whole tool! D:
My previous report didn't get into the comment, I think I did something wrong. I'm posting this again:
Visual Studio 11 Beta - Feedback
The installer need re-boot of Windows. Why?
I remember a video (GoingNative?) where someone from Microsoft
said there were no reason for installers to need any reboot anymore
since at least Windows Vista or 7.
I've choosen the C++ setup. The fact that it's "like VS6" makes me hesitate to me but oh well...
The interface is clearly simpler, it helps.
I don't feel like someone shoot at me because it's not a chat box.
I missed only the build icons in the toolbar. Most of the time I use only shortcuts
or right click on the target project to get it built, so I guess it's fine if
it's not available by default.
I create a simple C++ project to get a feel to the code display.
Issue #1: scroll bars don't work with my touchpad (I'm on a laptop).
I can move them with the mouse cursor, but my touchpad also have special sensors
on the bottom and right borders to allow scrolling the current window.
I did click inside the code window and tried to use the scrolling directly from
the touchpad but it does nothing.
I like the new syntax highlitghts but it just lacks ONE color: functions.
Visual Assist X already provide such colorization, making functions names appear in
brown. I find it very very useful because it sometimes clarify what you're manipulating,
auto result = Computation( some_data ); // function or constructor?
It's not important from the language point of view, but for the reader it might make him
see a potential problem faster if he understand that Computation is a class, and spot
a potential bug in the following lines.
Ok now I'm loading my open source project.
I generate the VS11 project files with CMake but it says it don't know the compiler.
In fact it's Qt that is getting in the way. I'll not be able to link but I want to try compilation.
I generate the VS10 project files and will try a conversion in VS11.
The conversion goes well and is very fast.
Compilation seems fast, I'm surprised, but I should make a clear comparison before saying it's always fast.
I didn't measure anything.
I got no error.
I find the graphic theme a bit too flat. The grey seem too close to the white so it makes the whole
a bit hard on eyes. I never liked black background in other IDEs but I should try the dark theme,
see if it's easier on the eyes (maybe I'm getting old...)
Dark theme syntax colors looks much more visible! I feel like it's far better. But I should try it
for more than a few minutes.
I can't link this project because I don't have VC11 binaries for Qt. I'll try with another project
I'm starting that is, for now, only 14 little C++ inter-dependant projects that have minimal code.
It compiles in VS10 but don't link yet. I just want to see how it feels with this one.
I generated my new project's VS11 files with CMake without any problem.
I closed the solution and attempted to open the other projec'ts solution, but it crashed.
While rebooting I see Bartoz Milewski on Twitter saying:
"VS11 beta: Can't pass args by move to a thread? std::thread th(&thFunMove, std::move(prms));"
Back to VS11, everything seem to work fine.
No more to add so far.
The colorless user interface seems like a major step backwards. I've been very excited about seeing the upcoming C++11 support is VS11, but I find the changes to the UI to be very disappointing. At the very least, I hope you will allow developers to select a color scheme that will make the IDE appear in color like in VS2010.
Using dark theme and working with TFS Express: Source Code Explorer's background is white.
Ugh. Hope you fix this.
The text of vs11 user interface is too large and ugly the icon too.
My reaction was running VS 11:
After a while with gray/dark color it made me so angry that I closed VS 11 and open it again 2 days later. Just tasteless color. looks like DOS style