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It would be really helpful if guidance was present that would allow me to 'test drive' a 2008 upgrade scenario.   It may just be a combination of restoring TFS to a differenttly named server and then performing an upgrade, perhaps starting here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms252516(VS.80).aspx

TFS is too important to us to engage in an upgrade and then find ourselves on the phone for a few hours with premier working on why the upgrade failed or rollback scenarios.  We need to identify those up front as much is as practically possible. (This is meant as a compliment to TFS!)

What about from TFS 2005? Might as well make this page definitive.

Now that the TFS media is starting to show up in our MSDN subscriptions and product keys are orderable,

I have reviewed the TFS 2008 (we have WSS 2.0 and want to go to WSS 3.0). I agree with the earlier comment: "TFS is too important to us to engage in an upgrade and then find ourselves on the phone for a few hours with premier working on why the upgrade failed or rollback"  With existing documentation the upgrade has every appearance of a pending disaster!

Hi - Thanks so much for the great information. We have one server with TFS 2005 and loads of history on it. We need to move to a new server and we want to run TFS 2008.

Can we accomplish this by just copying the databases to the new server and then installing TFS 2008? We tried using the TFS to TFS migration tool for two weeks and that didn't work since the tool has too many bugs with branch/merge/renames right now. That tool is not ready for prime time... unfortunately for us.

Can you point me to steps to do this? I'm seeing conflicting informtaion on the internet about how this is done.

mistype in the title of this blog: How DO I upgrade to TFS 2008?

I tried doing a restore-based move in combination with an upgrade from a TFS 2005 Workgroup Edition to the 2008 toolset.  After three weeks of two full server rebuilds per day I gave up and built the new server and used the tfpt "online" command to restore a series of snapshots from the old server.

By "in combination with" I mean "in the same three-week period".  I tried every combination and permutation of move and upgrade steps I could think of -- and I have a degree in mathematics -- but each failed in a different way.

The reasons I wanted to move along with upgrading included the fact that there were spooky things happening in the old server.  That may have something to do with the lack of success but be forewarned, it is not (always) the smooth sailing described here.  You have to parse the instructions dilligently and do everything exactly right.  Even then the end result may not work and good luck figuring out why.

I'm a little bit miffed about the wasted time and considerably more annoyed about losing my change history details.  But I appreciate the new tools and I wouldn't have you stand still.  If we could get 95% of the progress with 40% of the pain I might take that deal.

I really like the merge exploration screenshots.  Could we persuade your guys to work on a dependency visualizer for native code projects? :-)

I just spoke with Customer Support for Volume Licensing and they told me I need to contact my reseller and have them order me a CD so I can get the product key. They stated they cannot generate Team Foundation Server keys. We installed the Trial version of 2008 so we could update the key later.

Scott, I’m sorry you’re having problems getting a key from support. Needless to say, the problem is on our end - we had an internal miscommunication between the product team and support that caused the problem. We had a breakdown in execution that delayed the implementation of support processes to supply keys to customers.

We identified the issues and are actively addressing them to ensure Support can service our customers and supply keys to update TFS from Trial to release version. It will take 2-3 weeks (2/8) to implement the solution and train our support reps to provide proactive support and TFS keys.

In the meantime, if your TFS trial is due to expire in the next 3 weeks we have a couple of options to ensure you don’t have a disruption in TFS availability:

- Extend your trial by30 days using the using the TFSVersionDetection utility

- Pull the key from VL media. You can obtain VL media from a) your media kit or b) download it from MVLS (MS VL Server – your company’s VL administrator should have access to the download server)

If neither of the options above are possible and your trial is about to expire, email me @ efeaglerATmicrosoft.com and I will work with you to obtain a key to update your trial version.

My sincere apologies for this misstep and any inconvenience it has caused you and other customers.

- Eric

Thanks for your help Eric. We are trying the download now. We will order the media to just to be safe. By the way this Blog has been really informative for me and I really appreciate all the work Brian and everyone does on this site. Thank You again!

I have a specific Scenario for upgrade and would like a recommendation for the upgrade path I should follow:

Current state

-TFS 2005 installed on a single box with SQL Server and Reporting Services

End state

-TFS 2008 installed on multiple servers on new hardware

My new production environment will use a separate, shared SQL Server 2005 instance (Clustered SQL Server).  I want TFS to be on a separate box as well as SharePoint.  So the end state is 4 servers, 2 for SQL Server cluster (Already running in production), 1 for TFS Server and Reporting Services, (MOSS Farm) for SharePoint.

1) Is this scenario possible?

2) How do I move the SharePoint sites to a MOSS farm?  

3) Can I use MOSS or does it have to be WSS only?

4) What are the steps for moving the environment?

5) What steps are required for Proxy server upgrades.  (My team in India uses a TFS Proxy for access to the TFS Server)

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

One Pissed off Costumer!

I am unable to install VS 2008 volume license.  Either from the ISO or a DVD.  "I get Error 1305....\eula.rtf Verify that the file exists and you can access it."  WOW, thanks Microsoft.  And nobody has a solution.  Copying the files from the ISO to C: doesn't work as well.

The Team Suite ISO image VL version is indeed crap. Downloaded the 3.5 GB now two times and getting the same error as marc. TFS I did not try. But why does MS provide broken images?

Marc and Robert - I'm sorry you're seeing problems with this. We have had a lot of customers download from the VL servers and this is the first that we've heard of the issue. Can you each please contact me directly - briankel AT microsoft DOT com - and I will work with you to resolve this issue? I have also escalated this problem to our VL support team.

Brian Keller

Technical Evangelist

Visual Studio Team System

Marc and Robert,

Thank you for reporting this!  We have confirmed that the Team Suite image for VL download is indeed incorrect, and we're working to get it fixed immediately.  We apologize for the obvious inconvenience this has caused you.  We will certainly look at how this happened to avoid a repeat at a later point, but naturally ensuring that you are unblocked for your downloads is the first priority.  As soon as the refreshed Team Suite image has been reposted for you to download, we will notify you.

We are verifying the image for TFS in parallel and will get back with more data.  

We will also run thorugh all of our images uploaded for VIsual Studio 2008 to verify that we don't have other images that are corrupt.  Should you experience problems with other images you download for Visual Studio, please feel free to contact me directly on anna.lidman AT microsoft DOT com.

Thank you.

Anna Lidman

Developer Division Release Mgmt

Thank you for your patience.  The Team Suite image has now been republished.  As you download Team Suite from the VL servers, the Hash for the image should now match 573DB823AB8B031F7CC5F859B627708EE03B2E78.

Other images are being refreshed as well, for which we'll have individual expected availability dates in a day or two.

Please let us know if you experience any further issues with the download.  You can either leave a comment here or contact me directly on alidman AT microsoft DOT com.

Thank you.

Anna Lidman

Developer Division Release Mgmt

Regarding single box TFS 2005 to 2008 upgrade, I noticed that you recommend to uninstall the 2005 and then install the 2008. However the chm file with the instructions just says in effect "insert disk and install". Am I missing something?

James.

As Visual Studio 2008 was RTM already since end of November we were still waiting for the localized versions.

As Visual Studio 2008 was RTM already since end of November we were still waiting for the localized versions

With Team Foundation 2008 generally available, I've seen a bit of confusion over the various Editions

With Team Foundation 2008 generally available, I've seen a bit of confusion over the various Editions

Received a question today from somebody trying to upgrade their Team Foundation Server 2005 from trial

Received a question today from somebody trying to upgrade their Team Foundation Server 2005 from trial

Thanks for the useful post.

We have been using TFS 2008 trial since November and it has been a great product. With our MSDN subscription, we get TFS 2008 Workgroup edition. However, since we plan on having more than 5 users utilize this product, we will probably uprade to TFS Standard.

Before we do this, we would like some clarification. Does Standard edition limit users to only viewing work items that they create? Also, what kinds of licensing costs are there per user?

Sorry, Japanese Only... 今日は、Team System 関連の私にとっても皆さんにとっても有益なブログをご紹介します。知っている人は知っている(^^;) ブログではないかと思いますが、最近になって

Thanks for the reply.

I have two additional questions. First, do the Visual Studio 2008 CALs that have already been purchase take place of the CALs needed to have full functionality to TFS?

Second, if more than 5 users will be using Workgroup edition, is it possible to purchase CALs for these additional users?

Thanks,

Jay

Ok, I've just upgraded a dual server instance running on 2003 SP1. I am now seeing a strange error pop up in the event log. First I see this error:

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Detailed Message: TF200035: One or more errors occurred when Team Foundation Server attempted to synchronize with the following Active Directory identity: Team Project Contributors (AirOps). Number of errors that occurred: 1.

An error occurred when synchronizing the following Active Directory identity: Team Project Contributors (AirOps). Exception message: Error in the application..

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The group listed however is not an Active Directory group. It is a TFS server group only. I have confirmed that there is no AD group with the same name.

Following that error I see the following warning message:

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Detailed Message: TF50251: Background synchronization with Active Directory was aborted before completion.  Synchronization will restart when the Team Foundation Server restarts.

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My first question is how can I fix the error? My second is should I expect that, in the meantime, the TFS server will never finish synchronizing with AD?

The message "An error occurred when synchronizing the following Active Directory identity" is somewhat misleading in the sense that it is being used in common whether the identity is a TFS group or an AD identity! It does not imply that our code is confused and trying to sync a TFS group from AD.

The real error just says "Error in the application" so it is hard to figure out what exactly caused it. But the TFS application on the server was shut down, which is what caused the second error. Both are likely due to the same cause.

As stated in the second error "Synchronization will restart when the Team Foundation Server restarts". You will see event logs marking the start and successful finish of background sync on an hourly basis. If you see any more errors in the logs, do let us know!

- Vasu

I have a TFS 2005 License. Now I want to upgrade the server to TFS 2008.

Do I need new license or I can Get new media with same license?

Thanks.

I work for a major financial company that does development, and committed to TFS2008 as a platform after demoing the trial version.

I purchased it (not cheaply) from a reseller, and the reseller used Tech Data as the distributor, and the order went in for TFS2008 plus 10 copies of VS2008 to go with it.

Microsoft processed the order as TFS2005, and after calling the E-Open people and fighting with them, they gave themselves 5 business *days* to research and correct the problem. Well, 4 days in, I haven't gotten an update and can't retrieve the media to get the license file, to upgrade from the Trial version. Our check certainly cleared though.

This is after having the E-Open website for volume licenses down all day on March 28th.

I just can't stress enough how frustrating this is.

Die Teilnehmer der Launch-Veranstaltung in Frankfurt konnten bei der kostenlosen Software zwischen der

Hi everyone, I've downloaded the latest TFS2005 to 2008 upgrade doc.  It seems a bit light on what the steps are for upgrading a dual server configuration.  My questions are:

1) Does Sharepoint need to be upgraded to 3.0 or can it continue to run at 2.0 against TFS 2008?

2) Am I correct in assuming that to upgrade the AT and DT servers, I need to a) uninstall TFS from the DT, b) upgrade in place (not uninstall) TFS on the AT (which will take care of the DT?

Am I the only one thinking that the documentation is a bit light?  Am I missing some other dual server upgrade documentation somewhere?

We have a 2 server installation of tfs 2005 that is running on a VMWare virtual machine that we want to upgrade to 2008.

Rather then uninstalling - which worries me because of the interaction with sharepoint - could I just roll back the VM to a clean state and then install tfs 2008?

Or, even simpler, why can't I just install the new application tier on a new machine and point it at the old data tier?

The reason I think that won't work is your last comment (Monday, April 21, 2008 2:20 PM) where you say "we recommend you uninstall both the AT and the DT" how is the DT uninstalled. Is there more than "just" the database on the data server? Could I do everything on clean machines by taking a database backup and restoring it?

thanks,

sam

My company is a Gold Certified Partner.  We currently have use TFS 2005 and would like to upgrade to TFS 2008.  The the only option for TFS 2008 we have on our MSDN Subscriber download area is for the trial version.  I believe we're entitled to a license with our Gold status.  Am I mistaken about that?

Hi KevinV -

The standard (non-Workgroup Edition) of Team Foundation Server is not available via MSDN Subscriptions. But you are correct that as a Gold Partner if you have the CDS or ISV/Solutions Software Competencies your organization is entitled to one license of Team Foundation Server 2008. Generally your Global Administrator will receive the media from the Microsoft Partner Program, so if you know who that person is for your organization first check with them. Else you can contact your Regional Service Center: https://partners.microsoft.com/PartnerProgram/ContactMicrosoft.aspx

Hope that helps -

Brian Keller

OK, we love TFS 2008. We've been using it since the trial and before the end of it we ordered the full version from a supplier.

Supplier had problems delivering, so we extended by 30 days (thanks for the link in this blog!).

30 days later, and the supplier still hasn't come through, so we're desperate!

I try extending, and it says "Contact Microsoft, give them the current trial ID and they'll supply a new ID that will extend by 30 days". Great!

I ring Microsoft, and the phone monkey has no idea what I'm talking about and says I'll need to uninstall it and wait for the full version to arrive.

HELP!!

Hi All, I have a problem with Visual Studio 2008 Professional Trial (90 days) version. When I try to install VS 2008, got the error 1305 - "Error reading from file ...eula.rtf. Verify that the file exists and that you can access it." File exists, but I can not override it file from ISO image.

I downloaded VS2008 installation file from microsoft website.

Regards