June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

Steve Jackson (RDA) — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:52:15 GMT

Would you explain the "Files and Workitem Versions" chart? I can't make sense of the dates across the bottom...

Thanks!

Steve

The Team Foundation Dogfood Gravy Train

Ed Hintz (MSFT) — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:58:05 GMT

My wife, who is a nurse, chuckles at the computer slang she hears me use. One of her favorite terms is

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

Stuart Preston — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:25:46 GMT

Will migration from TFS 2005 to Orcas Beta 2 be supported?

If so:

- Is it an in-place upgrade to the schema or data migration to separate instances - if the latter, will history dates be preserved?

- Will rollback to TFS 2005 be supported if something goes wrong?

- Will the Sharepoint (WSS2.0) document libraries and templates be migrated to WSS 3.0?

- Will the migration process allow for binaries compiled against TFS 2005 to be migrated. For example, if one of the event subscriptions (a webservice, say) needs to be redeployed to support the v9.0 OM, will there be any hooks to make this easy?

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

Thys — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:27:26 GMT

Brian,

From your remark about CodePlex, I get the feeling that Orcas TFS will support more team project than the 2005 version. Is that correct?

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

bharry — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:00:45 GMT

Not quite. I don't think the number of projects per TFS server will change much. However, Orcas supports sharing of SQL servers. This means that CodePlex can buy fewer SQL servers and those are much more expensive than the TFS application tier machines because the hardware is so much beefier. I'm planning on writing a blog post about this configuration in the near future.

Brian

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

bharry — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:59:30 GMT

"I can't make sense of the dates across the bottom..."

Yeah, sorry about that, that's just the default axis that Excel is giving me. It's probably time to start pruning it or something to make it more readable. It starts with 8/24 which refers to 8/24/2004. That's when we first started dogfooding TFS - over a year before we shipped it. It ends with 4/24 which refers to 4/24/07. The numbers in between are a sparse rendering of the interim dates and the chart extends beyond the last label to June 2007.

Brian

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

bharry — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:13:58 GMT

Will migration from TFS 2005 to Orcas Beta 2 be supported?

>> Yes.

If so:

- Is it an in-place upgrade to the schema or data migration to separate instances - if the latter, will history dates be preserved?

>> It is an in place upgrade and all data/dates are preserved.

- Will rollback to TFS 2005 be supported if something goes wrong?

>> No. We strongly recommend taking a back up first in case you need to revert back.

- Will the Sharepoint (WSS2.0) document libraries and templates be migrated to WSS 3.0?

>> No, not automatically. Migrating existing sites from WSS2.0 to WSS3.0 would be a separate step after upgrade.

>> All code written against the TFS object model will need to be recompiled to run against the Orcas object model. Now, that said, both OMs will install side by side and the protocol is compatible so the old OM will talk to the new server. This means that many tools will be able to continue to use the old object model after your server upgrade.

Brian

VSTS Links - 06/22/2007

Team System News — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:58:50 GMT

Andrew Coates on What version of TFS am I Running? The Accentient Blog on Plug-in to Get Latest on Check-out....

TFS Migration and Synchronization Toolkit Released to the Wild

Ed Hintz (MSFT) — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:17:27 GMT

I am pleased to say the TFS Migration and Synchronization Toolkit (toolkit) is officially released. You

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

Edward Egberts — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:48:57 GMT

How can I generate these type of stats for my server? I would like to present a similar presentation to my managers.

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

Matt Dunn — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:56:43 GMT

Hi Brian,

In addition to the migration issues from TFS 2005 mentioned above, are there any implications for migration of team build definitions etc?

Thanks,

Matt

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

buckh — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 04:17:52 GMT

Matt, the upgrade process will create build definitions in TFS 2008 from the build types in TFS 2005. In TFS 2008, all of the build definition information other than the tfsbuild.proj and tfsbuild.rsp files is stored in the Team Foundation Build database, and the upgrade process will migrate the data for you.

Buck

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

Thys — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:45:46 GMT

Yes Edward, good question: How can we make such an overview over our own Team foundation servers?

Could you give us a clue, Brian?

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

bharry — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:36:58 GMT

I posted the SQL queries that I use while ago. Here's a reference to the post.

http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2006/06/12/628583.aspx

I've got a tool that does it and one of these days I'll finally get it packaged up and posted on the web.

Brian

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

Thys — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:29:27 GMT

Thanks! That helps a lot.

Looking forward to the release of your tool.

Thys

re: June DevDiv Dogfood Statistics

simpTim — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:45:35 GMT

Can you show us some of the real TFS report graphs that you are seeing at this stage as you count down to the final release of orcas and explain which stats in particular that you look for and explain how you use them?