Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2, Silverlight, Rosario, and more!

Brain Matter — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 03:41:44 GMT

Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2, Silverlight, Rosario, and more!

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

bcampbel — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:56:06 GMT

Is installing TFS 2008 Beta 2 on Server 2008 X64 Beta 3 a supported scenario? If so i'm having a bit of trouble getting it installed. It keeps telling me that I need the IIS 6 compatability pack installed when everything related to IIS compatability is already installed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

bharry — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:10:56 GMT

The Orcas version of the TFS application tier (like the TFS 2005 version) can not be installed on a 64-bit OS. We very desperately wanted to get 64-bit support for Orcas but with all of the other work we were doing, it just couldn't make it. We are working on it for our Rosario release. The client and the data tier will run on 64-bit OSes.

I'm guessing that this is the problem. What I recommend is either run the AT on a 32 bit machine or install a 32 bit OS in a VM on your 64-bit machine and run the OS in that VM.

Brian

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bcampbel — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:17:55 GMT

Thanks for clearing that up Brian. I figured that was the case but I couldn't find any information anywhere to confirm or deny it. You may want to make the error message a little more helpful, as is it is very misleading.

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

bharry — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:54:25 GMT

Understood. We'll have a look at the error.

Brian

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

jmanning — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:15:00 GMT

Bryan, can you email me your install logs? We have an existing check to make sure we don't try to install on a 64-bit OS (32-bit OS on a 64-bit machine is fine, of course), and we need to see what that check didn't work on your machine.

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

bcampbel — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:49:00 GMT

Sure, your email address is jmanning@microsoft.com right?

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bcampbel — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:52:31 GMT

Also, where is TFS setup writing its logs to?

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James Manning — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:49:24 GMT

Yup, that's my email address.

I'm mainly looking for dd_install* but you can send whatever you have :)

Check this blog post for which files and where to find them:

http://blogs.msdn.com/jmanning/archive/2007/07/21/i-m-having-problems-with-tfs-install-upgrade-repair-uninstall-where-are-the-log-files.aspx

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

Moreno Borsalino — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:58:08 GMT

Where are the Mobile Web Forms ? There will be a Mobile Asp.Net support ?

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

bharry — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:12:45 GMT

I didn't know the answer to your question so I checked around. What I learned is this...

The Mobile Web Forms runtime support is still in Orcas. We no longer have WYSWYG designer support for them though. They are still fully supported in source mode.

One of the Program Managers on the ASP.NET design time team committed to writing a blog post to explain the Orcas support they have. If I see it when it comes out, I'll link to it.

Brian

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Moreno Borsalino — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:13:16 GMT

Thank you very much Brian. I appreciate your interest in my question. Let me know if something new comes out

Moreno

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

Steven — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:30:11 GMT

Considering TFS 2008 Beta 2 was released with a “Go-Live” license I am planning on using that instead of TFS 2005 for a new TFS installation.

I have the following questions.

1. Will an in place upgrade to the released version of TFS 2008 be supported by the TFS 2008 installation package?

2. If I have purchase a license for TFS 2005 now will I be able to just pay for the upgrade to 2008 when it comes out and how much might that upgrade cost?

3. If I have purchase a number of Team Explorer CAL for vs 2005 professional now will I need to purchase an upgrade for each CALS when I switch my users to VS 2008 pro ( I understand I will pay for an upgrade to vs 2008 pro itself).

4. Will the TFS 2008 Beta 2 keep working until I install the released version? In other words is there any change it will expire before the TFS 2008 release version?

I purchased the TFS 2005 server and 20 CALs about two weeks ago and have not yet installed them. If I knew 2008 Beta 2 was coming with a go-live license I would have waited to purchase all of this until 2008 shipped in a couple months.

Thanks

-- Steven

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

bharry — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:46:16 GMT

1. Yes, an in place upgrade will work to upgrade from Beta 2 to RTM. You will uninstall Beta 2 and then install RTM.

2. I'm not sure about upgrade pricing. I'll look into it. You should check if you have software assurance (most TFS customers do). If you do, then the upgrade has no additional cost.

3. Yes, CALs go with the version of the server. You will need to buy a TFS 2008 CAL (and they can be used against any older server). Again, I'll check on upgrade pricing and the comments about software assurance apply again.

4. I believe Beta 2 is scheduled to expire. I don't recall exactly when, but I think it is next spring (Mar/Apr). There's no chance that the released version won't ship well before then.

Brian

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Steven — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:34:29 GMT

Thanks Brain I will look into the software assurance option. If you can post the upgrade pricing once that is known that would be helpful also.

-- Steven

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bharry — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:12:59 GMT

Steven, I've looked into this a bit more. We really don't have upgrade pricing - I'm still waiting for 100% confirmation. I've confirmed that there is no upgrades in volume licensing. I'm not 100% sure about what we call "FPP" (Full Packaged Product) as you would buy on Amazon.com, etc. The story I've gotten from our business team is that we strongly encourage people to purchase Software Assurance. It automatically gives you upgrades. A significant majority of our TFS sales are made with Software Assurance (SA), so there's a reasonable chance you bought it that way. If not, you could consider exchanging what you've got for software with SA attached (of course, it costs a bit more :() with who ever you purchased it from. But that would give you your upgrade to Orcas.

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Johnathon — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:25:38 GMT

When Orcas Beta 2 expires, will the applications compiled with Orcas expire as well?

re: Orcas Beta 2 is Available!

bharry — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:51:45 GMT

No, the applications you build don't expire.

Brian