Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

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Lorenzo Barbieri @ UGIblogs! — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:52:59 GMT

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

davidacoder — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:12:48 GMT

Not sure I like the WIT idea. I had hoped that you would eventually use InfoPath to design the WIT forms (Infopath 2007 can be hosted, so the VS experience would be the same as today). This would give instant web access to WIT via Infopaths 2007 web support.

But it seems to me that allowing custom controls in WIT forms makes a full web story all the more difficult. Or am I missing something?

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

Michael C — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:07:38 GMT

Will the next version of the Visual Studio SDK (V3 due in August) be the one documenting the WIT Custom Control support?

Will there be a "preview" (or a blog entry) filling us in on some of the details before then?

I like the idea of having more than the current set of field types (I'm dying for a grid). A little hesitant about how custom controls will affect web access (thinking TeamPlain).

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

bharry — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:43:15 GMT

I think InfoPath is a possibility in the future but is definitely out of scope for a service pack oriented release.

We have designed the custom controls extensibility so that you can have different control implementations and the host can pick which one to use. The Windows Forms host can pick one and a WebForms host could pick another (for example). We will work with Team Plain (and others) to explain how we have done it and enable them to support control hosting.

Good question on the SDK thing. I'll look into it and find out.

Yes, we will blog the details around the time that the SP Beta becomes available.

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

davidacoder — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:24:55 GMT

Ah, that is great to hear! Fully understand that InfoPath is too big for a SP, just was a bit worried that you "tie" your implementation too strictly to one presentation technology. But, you had thought about it already :)

I would also be quite interested to learn how you guys intened to integrate with WSS3. It appears to me that the introduction of content types would allow the whole WIT system to be based on WSS lists, which would actually be pretty cool (Automatic web access, Infopath forms, not an extra API for work items, but just the WSS list stuff, offline support etc). Are you thinking about that?

Also: Wasn't there talk that for Orcas the dev division would share every single spec during the design process etc? You must have started with that by now ;) Are you still planning on doing that?

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

bharry — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:12:28 GMT

I haven't looked at WSS3 closely yet. The last time we looked at WSS lists they were not powerful enough to handle everything we need for work items. I'll hook up with the people on our team responsible for that and see what the thinking is now.

Hmm, I do seem to recall Soma saying we'd be more transparent with specs. We'll definitely share some if not all of our specs. We haven't made it as far as you might think on the next version yet. After the 2005 wave of prodcuts DevDiv went through a round of engineering process improvements. We've been doing that for a few months now. We will be done with it soon and will be starting on V.Next in earnest within the next month. We should probably be able to start previewing some specs within a month or two.

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

Ray — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:13:10 GMT

We decided not to impliment the WIT stuff because of some major limitations. One of the bigger ones is that there was no "type to linked items. I.e you couldn't like to a bug and know that it was something the item "depended on" or was a "child of" or "parent of" or if the bug was a like to a dupliacte or what.

Knowing the "depends on" links was critical for decent resource management. In fact, there is no way to even pass the "links" to MS Project to do a proper gantt chart of your resource dependancies.

Is this kind of thing going to be addressed in SP1?

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

bharry — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:52:34 GMT

Yes, we are aware of some of the limitations around linking. We are planning to address them but that is beyond the scope of a service pack for us. To be honest, putting any features at all into a service pack is a pretty novel concept for the Developer Division and we had to have a lot of conversations to get in the ones we did. SPs are generally reserved for just fixing key customer identified bugs. I'm of the mind we should do that and address important (but smallish) customer feature requests. I hope to get into a pattern of releasing a few new features with every TFS SP that we do. And we'll continue to do major releases as well.

Brian

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

davidacoder — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:04:26 GMT

Yes, lists in WSS2 could never handle the kind of stuff you need. But WSS3 is really powerfull: You get content types, which would correspond to your work item types, with inheritance etc. Lists can have workflow via the new Workflow stuff in .Net 3.0 (probably more powerful than the workflow things in TS right now). And of course Infopath for the forms stuff, web and rich client. Infopath 2007 can be hosted as an ActiveX, so that could solve the integration with VS.

Of course, in some ways it would be crazy to completly replace such an important part as your working WIT implementation. But then, if it could be pulled of, it would be quite a proof of a good systems architecture of yours, where different services can be replaced with new implementations.

Alright, enough future rambling ;) I really like the short term approach you take with the SP etc!

Team Foundation Server Service Pack 1 - Coming Soon

My VSTS Blog — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:06:39 GMT

Brian Harry has recently blogged about what we can expect to see in the upcoming service pack for Team...

[TFS] Team Foundation Server SP 1 will be soon available !

Thomas Lebrun — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:56:45 GMT

Brian Harry has just posted the news on his blog: Service Pack 1 of Team Foundation Server will be available...

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

Avi harush — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:34:24 GMT

I hope it include some sdk changes. Like making some of the tfs dialogs public.
Will the gelatest+ checkout be inluded in the sp ?

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

bharry — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:56:49 GMT

I'm afraid to say that neither of those are changed in SP1. We checkout still doesn't get the latest and we didn't make any more dialogs public. Both of those are on our list of things to do but we haven't gotten to them yet. Sorry about that.

Brian

Team Foundation Server SP1 Beta Coming Soon

Rob Caron — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:18:46 GMT

In Brian Harry&rsquo;s recent&nbsp;Tech Ed 2006&nbsp;and Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server...

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

Brett Bailey — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:30:38 GMT

Did you kill the GC Handle bug?? I'ts driving us crazy!!

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

bharry — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:24:21 GMT

Yes, the GC handle bug in the work item tracking object model is dead. If you really need a fix, I believe you can get it by requesting at hotfix from CSS. If not, the fix will be in SP1.

Brian

newsBreaks.net » Microsoft readies Team Foundation Server service pack

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Getting ready for TFS SP1

My VSTS Blog — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:00:52 GMT

As the date for the TFS SP1 Beta approaches, there&rsquo;s one feature&nbsp;that will make TFS much easier...

Visual Studio Team Foundation Server Standardized as Enterprise-wide Service at Microsoft.

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TFS 1.0 SP1

Willy-Peter Schaub — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:14:41 GMT

Visit http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2006/06/15/632236.aspx for a hint of stuff coming down the

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The TFS "extranet" ISAPI filter mechanics

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re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

Viviana — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:46:58 GMT

Will be available any connection to sharepoint / project server 2007? Is there any future SP plan to include these features?

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

bharry — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:18:40 GMT

We are adding support for SharePoint 2007 in our Orcas release.

SP1 contains fixes to make our current MS Project support work with MS Project 2007.

We are looking into direct support for Project Server 2007 for a future version but have not announced and release plans at this point.

Brian

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

Nalina — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:17:53 GMT

Hi! Bharry

Is this Service pack out for installation,

Does it fix the Cannot pass GC Handle Accross Appdomains problem,

I see weird problems appearing with Team foundation server, have been looking at the posts on the internet, seems like there is no clear cut solution to any of them,

Nalina

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

Nalina — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:18:15 GMT

Hi! Bharry

Is this Service pack out for installation,

Does it fix the Cannot pass GC Handle Accross Appdomains problem,

I see weird problems appearing with Team foundation server, have been looking at the posts on the internet, seems like there is no clear cut solution to any of them,

Nalina

nalina.vemparala@computershare.com.au

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

bharry — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:27:57 GMT

Yes, the TFS SP1 fixes the problem with passing GC handles across app domains. What kind of wierd problems are you seeing?

Brian

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

Bernd Wechner — Thu, 10 May 2007 05:30:39 GMT

I can't seem (via Google) to find anywhere a lucid list of enhancements that SP1 introduces. I found a huge list of bugs, but I'm curious to get an overview of what NEW functionality I might expect. We installed it last night, and I don't know what's new. There are so many things on my wish list I'm particularly interested in Work Item tracking and enhancements there.

Of course the short answer may be that there are none. Just bug fixes. But I must ask! Admittedly there's sometimes a fine line (the lack of a work item search tool is to my mind a glaring bug for example!).

re: Stuff in the pipe for Team Foundation Server

bharry — Thu, 10 May 2007 13:44:36 GMT

There weren't that many new features in SP1. For TFS, this blog post lists them all:

http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2006/10/03/Promised-SP1-docs.aspx

Brian

[Update] TFS SP1 et MSSCCI

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Une nouvelle version du plugin MSSCCI permettant d'accéder au Source Control et aux Work Items depuis