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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx</link><description>Now that the 2008 wave of developer products has shipped I've seen a ton of questions about downloading and installing them. In this post I'm going to tackle answers to all of the questions I've seen around VSTS/TFS. 1) Hey you guys say you shipped TFS</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP1 (Build: 61025.2)</generator><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6472748</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:43:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6472748</guid><dc:creator>davidacoder</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I see why you have all these super complicated ways of getting software (well, actually, maybe not...). But why don't you in addition have a web site, with a web shop, where I can put stuff in my basket, check out and pay? Like every other small software company has it for its products? In particular for CALs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yes, you can tell me all day long about how these channels are what customers want and bla bla bla, but in the end, to me, it just is a mess. Have a shop, accept a credit card and be done. And if your SKUs and discounts for various groups are so complicated that this doesn't work, I'd suggest you simplify the SKU line up. Didn't Ozzy write a memo when he started to the effect that software purchase from MS should be easy? Right now, with VS it really isn't.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6473075</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:26:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6473075</guid><dc:creator>Kenny Kerr</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have a Team System MSDN subscription. Visual Studio 2008 Team System is available for download but TFS 2008 Workgroup is still not there. The link also does not work unfortunately. Hopefully that’s fixed soon – I’m excited to get started with TFS 2008.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6475832</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:36:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6475832</guid><dc:creator>Chris Mahoney</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Kenny, the link in this blog didn't work for me either but this one did:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="https://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-GB/subscriptions/manage/default.aspx?CA=Download"&gt;https://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-GB/subscriptions/manage/default.aspx?CA=Download&lt;/a&gt;||8D248001-A00E-4F3D-A16B-153924E875AB|MDN-SD3-000001|msdn/en_visual_studio_team_system_2008_team_foundation_server_workgroup_x86_x64wow_dvd_X14-29253.iso&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Failing that, you should see a link to the download on &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/subscriptions/bb608344.aspx"&gt;http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/subscriptions/bb608344.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope this helps :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>In a hurry to upgrade to TFS 2008?</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6476721</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:02:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6476721</guid><dc:creator>Guy Barrette</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;If you're in a hurry to upgrade to Team Foundation Server 2008, you might want to first read this blog&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Wo finde ich TFS 2008</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6478684</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:18:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6478684</guid><dc:creator>Roger Boesch's Blog</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Die meisten der Fragen, dei zur Zeit eintreffen, drehen sich um TFS 2008. Ich habe deshalb nachfolhend&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6479074</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:45:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6479074</guid><dc:creator>Jarle Nygård</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Just to be 100% clear; we can use the trial edition to upgrade our TFS 2005 server and then get a PID fra Microsoft Support? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We're Volume licensing customers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quick question; why on earth are you making it so hard on us to get your products? I would've thought that us, the VL customers, should be a priority...&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Wo finde ich TFS 2008</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6479167</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:57:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6479167</guid><dc:creator>Noticias externas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Die meisten der Fragen, die zur Zeit eintreffen, drehen sich um TFS 2008. Ich habe deshalb nachfolgend&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6483209</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:31:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6483209</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;One question at a time...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why don't we just make it easy to order online?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Well, I'm no expert on our licensing and sales channels (and quite honestly don't want to be). &amp;nbsp;That said, I believe each of our options exists for a reason. &amp;nbsp;I agree it's complicated but it doesn't have to be for you if you don't want it to be. &amp;nbsp;You ask, why don't we just make it available for download? &amp;nbsp;Well, we do. &amp;nbsp;We sell it through many resellers. &amp;nbsp;A few minutes browsing the web this morning turned up the following 5 urls for buying TFS (I'm not endorsing any of these sellers, I'm just observing I found them easily).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;www.softwaremedia.com&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/default.aspx?view=22&amp;amp;pcid=515c9859-958b-4433-b4f9-91f37258ca2f" target=_new rel=nofollow&gt;http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/default.aspx?view=22&amp;amp;pcid=515c9859-958b-4433-b4f9-91f37258ca2f&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.asap.com/microsoft/TFS.htm" target=_new rel=nofollow&gt;http://www.asap.com/microsoft/TFS.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=a0645754&amp;amp;cs=04&amp;amp;c=us&amp;amp;l=en&amp;amp;dgc=SS&amp;amp;cid=25747&amp;amp;lid=585571" target=_new rel=nofollow&gt;http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=a0645754&amp;amp;cs=04&amp;amp;c=us&amp;amp;l=en&amp;amp;dgc=SS&amp;amp;cid=25747&amp;amp;lid=585571&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_15?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;rs=&amp;amp;keywords=Team%20Foundation%20Server&amp;amp;rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3ATeam%20Foundation%20Server%2Ci%3Asoftware" target=_new rel=nofollow&gt;http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_15?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;rs=&amp;amp;keywords=Team%20Foundation%20Server&amp;amp;rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3ATeam%20Foundation%20Server%2Ci%3Asoftware&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Notice the 2nd one ia actually a Microsoft site - I didn't even know we did that :). &amp;nbsp;Now, that said, I didn't find any that are delivering 2008 yet - they are all still just selling 2005. &amp;nbsp;I suspect it's just timing - we released it just a few days before Thanksgiving and I suspect it will take a couple of weeks for resellers to get their sites updated.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just to be clear; Can I use trial and upgrade with a PID from Microsoft Support in January?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yes, absolutely. &amp;nbsp;If you have trouble getting a PID in January, let me know and I will help you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why are we making it so hard - especially for volume customers?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I assure you we aren't trying to make it hard. &amp;nbsp;I asked similar questions of our business teams earlier this week when I heard about the availability timeframes. &amp;nbsp;What I'm told is that our systems take about 1 month to manufacture the media and be ready to ship the product. &amp;nbsp;We literally upload the product to MSDN within days of finishing it. &amp;nbsp;Our sales channels just take a little bit longer than that. &amp;nbsp;My understanding is that we are working hard on improving that so that in the future we can have media available through sales channels within days as well. &amp;nbsp;For now our only alternative would be to wait to upload it to MSDN as well, and I just can't see how that would be a good thing.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Answering VS / TFS 2008 installation questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6483259</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:38:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6483259</guid><dc:creator>Jeff Beehler's Blog</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Brian wrote a detailed blog article addressing several common questions about obtaining and installing&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6483309</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:41:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6483309</guid><dc:creator>Jarle Nygård</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Honestly I'm just loving this brave new world! :) No, I'm not high on coffee, I'm just super excited that I can ask a question to Microsoft and get a near-instant, sensible, un-spunned answer! That's just amazing! How many other Fortune 500 companies can do that? Impressive!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanx for the swift and very precise response Brian, it's most appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Answering VS / TFS 2008 installation questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6483578</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:02:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6483578</guid><dc:creator>Noticias externas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Brian wrote a detailed blog article addressing several common questions about obtaining and installing&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6484318</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:50:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6484318</guid><dc:creator>Ian Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Someone needs to get the workgroup edition up on MSDN Subscriber Downloads. The workaround (use the link in the Top 10 downloads since it doesn't appear inside subscriber benefits) mentioned in the blog post and then again in Chris's comment to Kenny doesn't work!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris, that first link you gave is invalid. The second one (which is just a variation on the workaround given in this blog post, separating the main &amp;quot;Top downloads&amp;quot; panel out from the surrounding furniture on the link the blog post gives) just does a redirect which then refreshes the same &amp;quot;Top Downloads&amp;quot; page, NOT to a page where TFS 2008 Workgroup Edition can be downloaded.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have an MSDN Premium subscription/Developer skew and after four days of trying to get this resolved (and going round in never-ending circles: nobody within Microsoft seems to want to take responsibility for the issue - guess everyone's just too busy clogging up blogs.msdn.com with &amp;quot;VS2008 is now available&amp;quot;. At least we have the 90 day trial version which gives Microsoft another 86 days to get the thing up on subscriber downloads where it should be. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>VSTS 2008 Installation FAQ's</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6486575</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:19:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6486575</guid><dc:creator>Christian Binder's Weblog</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Es sind einige Fragen zur Installation von VSTS 2008 aufgekommen. Die Brian hat die h&amp;#228;ufigsten hier beantwortet.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Un po' di chiarezza sulle versioni (e sulle disponibilit</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6486821</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:36:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6486821</guid><dc:creator>Around and About .NET World</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Un po' di chiarezza sulle versioni (e sulle disponibilit&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>VSTS 2008 Installation FAQ's</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6487324</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:06:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6487324</guid><dc:creator>Noticias externas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Es sind einige Fragen zur Installation von VSTS 2008 aufgekommen. Die Brian hat die h&amp;#228;ufigsten hier beantwortet&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Update #1 to Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6492408</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:45:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6492408</guid><dc:creator>bharry's WebLog</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We have tracked down the URL for downloading Team Explorer from microsoft.com (when I first wrote the&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Update #1 to Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6492671</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:11:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6492671</guid><dc:creator>Noticias externas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We have tracked down the URL for downloading Team Explorer from microsoft.com (when I first wrote the&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6496799</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:44:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6496799</guid><dc:creator>chadbr</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I still don't understand why the server is lic'd separately.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The cost is trivial compared to everything else (i.e. VS, MSDN, etc.). What's the point?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the dev groups in my company didn’t go with TFS because the vendor we buy through couldn’t find a separate SKU for 2005 TFS server… It took me 2 weeks of calls and e-mail to get them to believe it was a separate product.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6496883</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:53:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6496883</guid><dc:creator>John</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Brian,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you document or provide a link for those of us who will upgrade our TFS 2005 installation at a later date, but want to upgrade the clients to VS 2008 professional and keep working with our existing TFS 2005 server? Do we download the the TFS 2008 workgroup edition to get the client install, or the Team Explore 2008? &lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Когда и как можно приобрести VSTS 2008</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6499475</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:40:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6499475</guid><dc:creator>Дмитрий Лапшин</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;В продолжение моего анонса о релизе VS 2008 и .NET 3.5 , информация из первых рук: Brian Harry написал&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6500572</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:22:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6500572</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;If you want to keep using a TFS 2005 server but upgrade your clients to VS 2008, you can download Team Explorer 2008 and install it with VS. &amp;nbsp;Read this post for details: &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/23/update-1-to-installation-questions.aspx"&gt;http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/23/update-1-to-installation-questions.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6500793</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:39:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6500793</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Re: Why we charge for the server?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It's a good question and one we've debated at length. &amp;nbsp;You are right that it represents a comparatively small revenue for us compared to VS/MSDN. &amp;nbsp;I'm not sure I can make an argument that will convince you because it's fairly subtle and open to debate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Conventional marketing wisdom is that many people use price as an indicator of value. &amp;nbsp;If something is really cheap (or free) then people assume there isn't much value in it. &amp;nbsp;This phenomenon particularly happens when there are competitors to compare to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TFS has a ton of value - in fact, there are actually more people working on TFS than any of the individual VSTS client SKUs (ignoring that VSPro is included). &amp;nbsp;And, we have some evidence that this theory holds. &amp;nbsp;TFS is already one of the cheapest development life cycle servers available. &amp;nbsp;We actually lose sales (I'm not making this up) because TFS is so much cheaper than some of our competitors (and for that matter what enterprises are used to paying for LOB servers) because TFS is perceived as having dubious value because it is so cheap. &amp;nbsp;I know that seems weird but it's a fact - weird or not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Secondly there are issues around how we fund the development internally. &amp;nbsp;It is harder to get funding for products that have no revenue. &amp;nbsp;It can be done - we have some, clearly but it's harder.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are toying with the idea of introducing an Enterprise Edition in the future and at that time we will look at repackaging the value and we may reconsider prices. &amp;nbsp;We'll see.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Until then, we certainly need to try to make sure everyone understands what they need to buy and make it as easy to buy as possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm sorry to hear about your experience. &amp;nbsp;If there's anything I can do to help, let me know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6501135</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:18:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6501135</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Ian, re: availability of Workgroup Edition. &amp;nbsp;I'll take responsibility for the issue. &amp;nbsp;I've got a few mail threads going internally trying to work it out and am also working on getting an MSDN subscription so that we can verify the experience for ourselves. &amp;nbsp;As you can imagine, with the holidays, it is difficult to get a hold of people to make progress but we are working on it. &amp;nbsp;As soon as I have a definitive answer for where you can download Workgroup Edition, I will post it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>bharry's WebLog : 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6505621</link><pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:24:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6505621</guid><dc:creator>Johan Danforth's Blog</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;bharry's blog post says it all: Now that the 2008 wave of developer products has shipped I've seen a&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>bharry's WebLog : 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6505629</link><pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:24:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6505629</guid><dc:creator>Johan's Blog</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;bharry's blog post says it all: Now that the 2008 wave of developer products has shipped I've seen a&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6518944</link><pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:03:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6518944</guid><dc:creator>prulifson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have TFS 2005 server licenses. Do I need to purchase 2008 server licenses? Or is there an upgrade path? Or is my purchase of 2005 server licenses irrelevant?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thx.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6523994</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:15:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6523994</guid><dc:creator>chadbr</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Good information Brian --&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm familiar with the &amp;quot;price is too small&amp;quot; problem. Our company has the same problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think some clarity on the server product name / sku would help. I’m sure you have nothing to do with it – but passing it along could help. I’ve heard similar feedback from several of my peers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For what it’s worth – I consider TFS to be the best product for team software development. And I’ve used quite a few…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp;Chad&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6529420</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:26:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6529420</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Chad, Thanks for the feedback and kind words. &amp;nbsp;I'll pass it along.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;prulifson, You will need 2008 licenses (both of CALs and servers) to use TFS 2008. &amp;nbsp;Question #5 in this post addresses the CAL issue. &amp;nbsp;For the server, the answer is similar. &amp;nbsp;If you bought Software Assurance (SA) with your TFS server, then you get it at no additional charge. &amp;nbsp;If you did not, you will need to purchase a new server. &amp;nbsp;There is no upgrade SKU - Software assurance basically is our upgrade SKU.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Answers to a few VS 2008 Trial Edition, TFS 2008, and SourceSafe Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6541825</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:35:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6541825</guid><dc:creator>ScottGu's Blog</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Below are some answers to a couple of questions about the recent VS 2008 release that I've seen the last&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Answers to a few VS 2008 Trial Edition, TFS 2008, and SourceSafe Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6541918</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:40:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6541918</guid><dc:creator>BusinessRx Reading List</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Below are some answers to a couple of questions about the recent VS 2008 release that I've seen the last&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Answers to a few VS 2008 Trial Edition, TFS 2008, and SourceSafe Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6542367</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:00:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6542367</guid><dc:creator>Elan Hasson's Favorite Blogs</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Below are some answers to a couple of questions about the recent VS 2008 release that I&amp;amp;#39;ve seen the&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6552858</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:19:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6552858</guid><dc:creator>acorcoran</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;If you install the 90 day trial version of TFS 2008, can this be upgraded to the Enterprise Agreement version that is released in January? &amp;nbsp;If so, is it done through the same measures of add/remove programs (repair option?)&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6563398</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:10:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6563398</guid><dc:creator>steve</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for all the info. &amp;nbsp;We have a TFS beta2 installation and I was prompted to uninstall pre-release versions when trying to upgrade to rtm. &amp;nbsp;Is this the normal upgrade procedure - to uninstall beta2 and then install rtm with the same db's intact or should it let me upgrade in place? Thx.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6577072</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:51:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6577072</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Steve, yes for Beta 2 upgrades, you need to uninstall Beta 2 TFS and install RTM. &amp;nbsp;Your data will be kept in tact. &amp;nbsp;In place upgrades only work for upgrading TFS 2005.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;acorcoran, It's not a new version being released in January, it's just the product keys that are being made available. &amp;nbsp;And, yes, you can install trial now and update it with the EA product keys in January using Add/Remove Programs -&amp;gt; Repair.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>VSTS Links - 11/28/2007</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6579571</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:28:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6579571</guid><dc:creator>Team System News</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The Visual Studio Code Analysis Team Blog on Maintainability Index Range and Meaning. Willy-Peter Schaub...&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6586350</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:47:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6586350</guid><dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We unfortunately need to rebuild the server our TFS2005 installation is on. Is there a documented way for us to run a complete backup of our TFS2005 installation, and then restore the data to a clean install of TFS2008?&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6602609</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:52:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6602609</guid><dc:creator>marc</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Currently I have to independent servers: tfs2005 and tfs2008beta3. what is the best method to merge both servers into one tfs2008RTM? I was thinking upgrade the tfs2005 server to 2008RTM, and then possible import the data from the 2008beta3 into the 2008RTM. Any suggestions?&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6617077</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:51:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6617077</guid><dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We have been running the TFS2005 Trial edition and were just about to make a purchase. Now that 2008 is out, should we just buy that and install it on the 2005 trial version or do we have to upgrade to the 2005 paid version first? Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6617392</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:26:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6617392</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;You can just buy TFS 2008 and upgrade your 2005 Trial. &amp;nbsp;You don't have to install 2005 first.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6631356</link><pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:01:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6631356</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Riley, yes, that is documented in the administration guide on MSDN. &amp;nbsp;I don't remember the exact page. &amp;nbsp;I was just going to look for it and noticed that somehow the link to our docs has disappeared. &amp;nbsp;I assume it is a mistake and have sent mail to have it investigated. &amp;nbsp;You should find a link to it under Technical Information, here &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/teamsystem/default.aspx"&gt;http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/teamsystem/default.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Marc, Merging servers is one of the things we don't have a great answer for. &amp;nbsp;Yes, pick the one you want to keep and then upgrade it. &amp;nbsp;You'll then need to transfer the data from the other server. &amp;nbsp;That's where it gets a bit tricky. &amp;nbsp;The best tool we have for enabling that is here: &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.codeplex.com/tfstotfsmigration"&gt;http://www.codeplex.com/tfstotfsmigration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>VS 2008 a TFS 2008 - kde je vzít?</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6642260</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:32:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6642260</guid><dc:creator>BonzBlog Michaela Juřka</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Spousta nedočkavců chce vyzkoušet novou verzi Visual Studia 2008 a Team Foundation Serveru 2008. Ot&amp;#225;zkou&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6642713</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:57:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6642713</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;One correction. &amp;nbsp;Earlier on this thread, I said there was no upgrade SKU. &amp;nbsp;It's true that there is no upgrade SKU for volume licensing - Software Assurance basically is the upgrade SKU. &amp;nbsp;However, there is an upgrade SKU for Full Packaged Product (FPP). &amp;nbsp;That's basically single unit purchases bought through a reseller. &amp;nbsp;I don't know exactly what the price for it is - it will depend on the reseller. &amp;nbsp;I just wanted to make sure that I corrected myself so that people know it is an option.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6657590</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:43:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6657590</guid><dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Brian,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is the URL you were referring to for the TFS2008 Administration Guide.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The most current version of the Team Foundation Administrator's Guide is available on the Web at the MSDN Online site (&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=79725"&gt;http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=79725&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6667282</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:10:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6667282</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6694781</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:34:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6694781</guid><dc:creator>Gunady</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We are Microsoft Certified Partner, and if we have license for TFS 2005, we should also have license for TFS 2008, shouldn't we? I plan to install TFS 2008 Trial Version first, and in January, where the Product Key is available, I just need to enter product key in Add/Remove Programs. Am I right?&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6695114</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:03:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6695114</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I beleive that's correct. &amp;nbsp;The partner benefits did not change significantly and you should get 2008 versions of products in Jan. &amp;nbsp;You can just upgrade the trial license key.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6725875</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:42:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6725875</guid><dc:creator>Bill Cochran</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;About this difficulty in purchasing Microsoft developer tools...I have found that my preferred supplier's microsoft licensing expert is a bit less expert than I would expect. &amp;nbsp;Also, calling different numbers at Microsoft for information tends to lead me in circles on the phone. &amp;nbsp;The bottom line is that few people selling and providing customer service truly understand the products they are selling. &amp;nbsp;Probably something along the lines of people using the product understand the product, but don't sell the products. &amp;nbsp;People who sell them just don't ever want to use the products. &amp;nbsp;That's life, but it may be possible that information can be shared in a more effective way to alleviate the tension found in some of the comments posted on this blog. &amp;nbsp;I'm sure smarter people than me have already thought of this...&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6726333</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:44:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6726333</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the feedback Bill. &amp;nbsp;It is a tough problem. &amp;nbsp;We do our best to educate resellers on our products and licensing terms but it's a big challenge. &amp;nbsp;I've passed your feedback on to the business team to keep the issue fresh in their minds.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6741508</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:09:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6741508</guid><dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Are there any issues using VS 2005 with TFS 2008 that we should be aware of? We are looking to setup a new TFS server and figure we might as well use TFS 2008. &amp;nbsp;However our clients most likely will be lagging on upgrading to VS 2008.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6746231</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:45:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6746231</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;You should find very few issues using VS 2005 + Team Explorer 2005 with a TFS 2008 server. &amp;nbsp;You can read some of the details here:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/08/08/final-tfs-2008-feature-list.aspx"&gt;http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/08/08/final-tfs-2008-feature-list.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Database Locations</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6761494</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:35:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6761494</guid><dc:creator>ken</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Database Locations&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you please document how you would install TFS and put the database files onto a different drive rather than the default that SQL uses. &amp;nbsp;I did change the default data file locations before I installed TFS but they still installed into the standard location.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6796568</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:45:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6796568</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry it took me so long to get back to this (installing TFS databases on a different drive) - been hectic and I had to go get some info. &amp;nbsp;Because the answer is long and others are likely to want to know too, I am writing a post on it right now. &amp;nbsp;It should be posted in about 15 minutes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Answers to a few VS 2008 Trial Edition, TFS 2008, and SourceSafe Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6828314</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:42:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6828314</guid><dc:creator>Developer Blogs</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Below are some answers to a couple of questions about the recent VS 2008 release that I&amp;amp;#39;ve seen the&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Moving from TFS2005 to TFS2008</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6830491</link><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:57:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6830491</guid><dc:creator>ASPInsiders</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This weekend we made the move from TFS2005 to TFS2008 and it went pretty smooth. The only issue we encountered&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6888405</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:33:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6888405</guid><dc:creator>Chris Auer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Any idea when in January 2008 is available for MS Gold partners? We are currently on TFS Beta 2 with &amp;nbsp; VS 2008. I would like to get off of Beta 2, but we have 20 programmers and the Workgroup wont work for us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#6954714</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:49:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:6954714</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm afraid, I don't know. &amp;nbsp;I'm not even sure I could easily find out. &amp;nbsp;One option you have is to upgrade to TFS 2008 Trial and then just use Repair to enter your key when you get it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#7043927</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:28:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7043927</guid><dc:creator>Brian Bridges</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We've been working to install TFS 2008 and were having some issues. &amp;nbsp;However, MSDN Support is telling us that TFS 2008 is still in beta and response times, etc. will be longer because of this. &amp;nbsp;Since TFS 2008 has been out for a while now, I'm confused about this. &amp;nbsp;Any special words we can use to convince them it's been RTM'ed?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#7044466</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:13:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7044466</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;TFS 2008 is most certainly released. If anyone in support has any questions about that, tell them to contact Brett Hatcher - he's the support manager for TFS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#7055562</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:14:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7055562</guid><dc:creator>al</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Is the trial edition listed as 'trial' in add/remove programs before/after the product key is entered?&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#7057096</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:51:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:7057096</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We don't put the work &amp;quot;Trial&amp;quot; in the Add/Remove programs entry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#8170106</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:02:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8170106</guid><dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I hope this topic isn't too old for a response. Is it possible to run TFS 2005 and 2008 side by side on the same server? We have been running vs2005 and vs2008 side by side on our development computers since vs2008 has been out with no problems, but my company wants to make sure we don't have any problems with the server product before we upgrade. Also, if this is possible, what are the disadvantages to this?&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#8412875</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:03:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8412875</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Not too old, now but I was on sabbatical so I'm just catching up on email.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, you won't be able to install TFS 2005 &amp;amp; TFS 2008 side by side on the same server. &amp;nbsp;We have set that as a goal for future versions of TFS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#8419549</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:09:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8419549</guid><dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the reply. I saw the sabbatical thing the day after I posted the comment. We eventually just upgraded normally and everything went smoothly. Thanks for all the information. Your blog is definitely the best source of information for TFS upgrading.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#8446444</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 08:55:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8446444</guid><dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Where can Visual Studio 2005 Team Foundation Server Workgroup Edition be found? &amp;nbsp;It appears to have dropped off of MSDN subscription site. &amp;nbsp;Or more importantly, where can I get the Team Explorer 2005 download?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#8446844</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:02:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8446844</guid><dc:creator>bharry</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I don't know where TFS 2008 Workgroup Edition is. &amp;nbsp;I'll look into it. &amp;nbsp;You can get Team Explorer 2008 here:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0ED12659-3D41-4420-BBB0-A46E51BFCA86&amp;amp;displaylang=en"&gt;http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0ED12659-3D41-4420-BBB0-A46E51BFCA86&amp;amp;displaylang=en&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It will work just fine with a TFS 2005 server (and since TFS is CAL based licensing, you can use it with your TFS 2005 server without paying anything in addition to what you did for TFS 2005).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can't find TE 2005 either but you shouldn't need it. 2008 should work fine. &amp;nbsp;I'll look into what happened to the 2005 downloads.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Team Build 2008 Installation Question</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#8575677</link><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:40:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8575677</guid><dc:creator>Patrick B</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We are going to upgrade to TFS 2008 this weekend including our build server. &amp;nbsp;I have a question on the installation of Team Build. &amp;nbsp;Do I need to remove Team Build 2005 before I install Team Build 2008. &amp;nbsp;The Team Build 2008 installer gives you a pretty hard warning for this. &amp;nbsp;The reason I am unsure is that when you uninstall Team Build 2005, it removes the VS 2005 MS Build folder &amp;nbsp;(C:\Program Files\MSBuild\Microsoft\VisualStudio\v8.0\TeamBuild). &amp;nbsp;However, in the TFSBuild.proj files, there is a specific reference to files under this folder. &amp;nbsp;So there are two possibilities: &amp;nbsp;The 2008 upgrade automatically update the TFSBuild.proj files to point to the new version of MSBuild? &amp;nbsp;or you need to leave the previous version installed? &amp;nbsp;Otherwise, the existing automated builds would not work under Team Build 2008. &amp;nbsp;Any help would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#8575724</link><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:51:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8575724</guid><dc:creator>Patrick Carnahan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Patrick,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The upgrade from TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 will update the tfsbuild.proj files to point to the new location. There is also no real danger in leaving TFS Build 2005 installed on the build machine if you need to, just be aware that the default port for both 2005 and 2008 is the same, so you will need to modify it for one service or the other for them to actually run simultaneously.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Patrick&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: 2008 Installation Questions</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2007/11/22/2008-installation-questions.aspx#9359451</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:11:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:9359451</guid><dc:creator>Gary Miner</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I am attempting to upgrade to TFS 2008. the documentaion states &amp;quot;Before you upgrade a deployment that is configured with FQDNs, you must first reconfigure it to use either computer names or IP addresses&amp;quot;. We definitely use a FQDN.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How do i do this?&lt;/p&gt;
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