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Just a little more on -- What is Community

I can't help myself. I'm bent on doing my utmost to come to some agreement on the meaning of terms under discussion. It's become top-of-mind for me recently because my group has been part of a general reorganization and the slow process of understanding between the new housemates has only just begun.

I took a stab at defining community a couple of years ago. The diagram that resulted is below. (And yes I admit I snagged ideas from a lot of places to put it together).

I suppose many of the terms used in the diagram above deserve some clarification, but for now I'm going to risk misunderstanding for the sake of brevity. I liked it, and continue to find it useful because it speaks to a range of associations, makes clear the overlap that exists between them, and points out that many community "types" can exist based upon a single fabric (forums, blogs). There are also several weaknesses. For instance, it does not make clear that strong-tie associations of the user group kind often employ many tools. That is, they may visit the same forum or forums, read each others blogs, or participate on the same DLs. There's a possible  apples and oranges problem with the examples -- though I think it's a minor one. And, it's not remotely complete in terms of the channels available to "community" -- email isn't listed at all (sell that to the burning-man communities).

Finally, my diagram doesn't call out the fact that both no-tie and strong-tie associations tend to be predominantly "site centric", while weak-tie associations are more likely to be "net-centric". It doesn't in part because I'm not sure I buy it just yet, though I'm aware of a lot of anecdotal evidence that supports that contention.

All pro's and cons aside, there are other ways of looking at the subject. It's just one way to get to some common ground.

Below is another. It's from Rawn Shah (a Community Program Manager at IBM's Developerworks).

What I like about this is that it starts from "General Population" and ends with "Organization". That's a perspective my version misses altogether and that I find interesting. Also, by avoiding the word "intimacy" and instead describing the more concrete forms increasing intimacy delivers or enables (levels of involvement, complexity, focus, shared identity) it is perhaps easier to understand.

The downside is that what he calls audience and "social network" is what lots of people in my world call community. Telling them they're not community managers, but are instead audience managers, or social network managers, is asking for trouble.

In both cases, however, the range of possibilities is clear. And that is the central message. People are almost always in more than one type of association based upon needs and disposition. I, for instance, have very few online (or offline) strong tie relationships. I am, however, very much into weak-tie associations for purely utilitarian reasons. Even where I do engage in strong-tie associations, in those same areas I fully employ every weak-tie association I can find.

One type of association is not better than another -- though there may be reasons to strive for one over another from a corporate perspective in that there appears to be a correlation between strong-tie associations and customer satisfaction. (Sadly, the research I have available does not make these critical distinctions and so have less value than they otherwise might.) And apart from simple discovery, it's not clear that one type necessarily leads to another. Though we shouldn't discount the discovery/awareness angle. Seen this report?

Once we agree on a rational definition of community -- one that in the very least draws distinctions between types -- we can talk.

 

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Published Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:14 PM by bobreb

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# Social Networks are not all created equal -- and they take many forms.

Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:51 PM by Process of Change

From Wikipedia: A social network is a social structure made of nodes which are generally individuals

# Social Networks are not all created equal -- and they take many forms.

Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:52 PM by The Working Network

From Wikipedia: A social network is a social structure made of nodes which are generally individuals

# In Munich

Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:47 PM by Process of Change

So my meetings in Europe continue... I was in Munich from around 8:30 AM until 6:30 PM flying in from

# In Munich

Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:47 PM by The Working Network

So my meetings in Europe continue... I was in Munich from around 8:30 AM until 6:30 PM flying in from

# Facebook notes

Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:41 PM by Process of Change

So I join Facebook . I'm doing their thing for about five minutes, and I discover an old college/post-college

# Facebook notes

Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:41 PM by The Working Network

So I join Facebook . I'm doing their thing for about five minutes, and I discover an old college/post-college

# Amazon and social software

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:08 PM by Process of Change

Josh has an excellent post reviewing Amazon's investments in social software. (Thanks also to Brian for

# Amazon and social software

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:04 PM by The Working Network

Josh has an excellent post reviewing Amazon's investments in social software. (Thanks also to Brian for

# Social Networking Core Tenets -- KPIs

Monday, May 14, 2007 3:44 PM by The Working Network

My new organization uses these terms. We didn't. We used some others, but the end game is the same.

# Social Networking Core Tenets -- KPIs

Monday, May 14, 2007 3:47 PM by Process of Change

My new organization uses these terms. We didn't. We used some others, but the end game is the same. Just

# Community Core Tenets -- KPIs

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:40 PM by The Working Network

My new organization uses these terms. We didn't. We used some others, but the end game is the same. Just

# Some Useful Groundwork

Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:40 PM by Process of Change

www.fabernovel.com/socialnetworks_en.pdf The above research is an attempt to provide a little structure

# Some Useful Groundwork

Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:40 PM by The Working Network

www.fabernovel.com/socialnetworks_en.pdf The above research is an attempt to provide a little structure

# Some Useful Groundwork

Sunday, December 02, 2007 4:13 PM by Noticias externas

www.fabernovel.com/socialnetworks_en.pdf The above research is an attempt to provide a little structure

# re: Just a little more on -- What is Community

Saturday, January 19, 2008 3:33 PM by bobreb

I've reconsidered this model in recent months. While it remains an accurate and useful depiction of the highest level "associations" between people, it would better be called a  taxonomy of association types, than a definition of community.

I've recently become convinced that "community" must include cognizance of membership. Therefore, absent tie, and many weak-tie, association types would not constitute community.

To put it another way, not all social systems are necessarily communities. Example: the blogs in my RSS reader define one of my social networks. They do not, however, constitute a community.

From yet another perspective, an understanding of the association types is necessary for the development of any social network strategy. And that strategy may be appropriate in terms of leading to a productive social networking outcome. But that social networking outcome may not include the formation of any sort of community.

This is particularly true in the area of product support, and in terms of social networking solutions for information workers.

# Social system design part 1: defining terms

Monday, January 21, 2008 9:06 PM by Process of Change

Before the holidays I made the following promise: However, to put all of this in context, I've decided

# Social system design part 1: defining terms

Monday, January 21, 2008 9:38 PM by Noticias externas

Before the holidays I made the following promise: However, to put all of this in context, I've decided

# Process of Change : Just a little more on -- What is Community

Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:55 PM by Dating

I can't help myself. I'm bent on doing my utmost to come to some agreement on the meaning of terms under discussion. It's become top-of-mind for me recently because my group has been part of a general reorganization and the slow process of understandin

# Process of Change : Just a little more on -- What is Community

Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:37 PM by Weddings

I can't help myself. I'm bent on doing my utmost to come to some agreement on the meaning of terms under discussion. It's become top-of-mind for me recently because my group has been part of a general reorganization and the slow process of understandin

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