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me — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:44:36 GMT

Am I the only one who initially read that as "Bling" (as in bling bling)?

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BradA — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:52:34 GMT

Yea.. I should have said that "Blinq" rhymes with “wink”...

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Simon Harvey — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:22:32 GMT

Thats sounds really cool....

The only thing that occurs to me - will it be possible to use business objects for data access and so on, or will there be lots of code embbeded in the aspx page itself?

I'm a business object sort of chap personally so I'm just wondering what the final pages will look like?

Many thanks!

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Glyn Simpson — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:34:57 GMT

No, i see it as 'bling' too.... especially when it is underlined ;-)

One of my pet peeves is all of the code that is needed to get data out of a database, or the use of typed datasets that go beyond my comprehension very quickly.

I hope this will make my life a lot easier in those regards.

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Shamshad — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:43:23 GMT

This is really NO need of programmer/developer in future? I don't agree that everything should be automated. There is lots of minor things that automation can't do. Like we want- it should be? like we use our brain.

But for making scripts handy for developers would be nice. I don't agree like old days MS Access run Wizards to create ready made forms reports for you. But need nice tunning by developer as requirement for use. otherwise it can be done by any non professional/end user. Why still they required developers?

Every little thing has been created for use, human computer and so many other things we see daily, but no one can be replaced over human.

I also agree and use this tool to save my time for remembering how many tables, columns and relations I developed, that would a great advantage, but still need lots of developmend required by human hands/ business objects/logics/requirements.

Shamshad Ali.

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Pete — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:41:07 GMT

I, for one, enjoy writing web front-ends to databases about as much as I enjoy getting punched in the face, and I appreciate Microsoft's efforts to automate the busywork involved.

Thanks for easing my pain, guys.

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Chad L. — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:16:19 GMT

Sounds like Ruby on Rails scaffolding.... Or am I not seeing the whole picture?

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jcteague — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:16:51 GMT

You should really check out NetTiers.

http://www.nettiers.com

this is a set of Codesmith templates project that creates the entire dal, business layer as well as a web admin front end.

There is even more cool stuff in the svn repositories. Customer datasource controls, Component Layer based off ObjectBuilder, and an atlas version of the web admin is under way, not sure if it is in the source control yet.

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RyanC — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:34:31 GMT

Looks very interesting and I'm curious to see how this is going to be built. Will we be able to get it with VS2005? Will it be available for Atlas and ASP.NET projects? How flexible is this tool and the code following it?

To be honest, this sounds an aweful lot like NHibernate, and while NHibernate is a great tool, I'd really like to use a similiar tool built by Microsoft.

I'll be following this and hope to hear more news in the future. Thanks!

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Jim Wooley — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:01:54 GMT

Blinq will definatly reduce the time of throwing together a site mock-up. My concern is companies that slap something together with BLINQ, think they are done, and then wonder why it doesn't perform when returning 100,000 records and isn't secure connecting through the firewall, not to mention the cross-site scripting attacks they are experiencing. It is good for prototyping, but we still need to consider our architecture and other good programming tennents.

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kashif — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:43:11 GMT

Simon said
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The only thing that occurs to me - will it be possible to use business objects for data access and so on, or will there be lots of code embbeded in the aspx page itself?

I'm a business object sort of chap personally so I'm just wondering what the final pages will look like
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Simon, Blinq promotes the n-tier model and creates the ORM layer and the DAL that goes against this. The aspx page will contain no code [unless you decide to use the PageDataSource option], only the GridView and ObjectDataSoruce controls. The rest of the code is abstracted to business object classes and methods to query SQL using DLinq - these can be found under app_code directory.

Hope that helps,
Kashif

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kashif — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:00:06 GMT

Jim,

can you clarify some of the concerns you had - as far as requesting records goes - Blinq promotes in-built paging where the pagination happens on the SQL server and you can query small amounts of data, thus keeping your site performance in check, as far as XSS goes - Blinq uses the GridView/FormView and DetailsView controls for presentation/u[date which have been threat modeled to prevent such attacks - as far as sql injection attacks go - DLinq neutralizes any bad input when passing it to SQL.

Hope that helps,
Kashif

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kashif — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:06:12 GMT

Chad - here is a blog post Tim Heuer did on a comparison of Blinq with rails scaffolding http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2006/06/16/12714.aspx

-Kashif

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Ido Ran — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:37:48 GMT

I hope that Blinq will work as hoped. Personally, I love all the LINQ tech.
The thing is that all the other LINQ technolegies are target for developers and Blinq is trarget for operator or web administrator or DBA which are not always developers. I think that they will miss the knowledge of a developer and as result of that the clients which access the Blinq site will not get as good experience as database front-end developed by a developer.

Another thing is that you always want just one more change which is not supported by the automated mechanisem. I hope that Blinq will be extensible enough.

Ido.

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ZeroDev — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:55:41 GMT

hi
i just need to know how to start with this application

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Ryan — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:29:13 GMT

I think this will be a great tool for CSR / Testers to use with Product DataBases.

I for one Love writing nTier applications with hundreds of CRUD classes to interact with a DataBase. I love total control.

I don't like DataSets, they're too clunky.

I do think this will be great for a developer to quickly throw up a few pages so the QA's can manipulate the Data They need (for web apps) without developing a seperate section, or giving them direct access to the CUstomer Databases.

It will be fun to play with.

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Kashif — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:05:26 GMT

ZeroDev, install the 2.0 framework, the LINQ CTP and Blinq - install locations for LINQ and Blinq can be found at http://www.asp.net/sandbox/app_blinq.aspx?tabid=62 - then look under \Program Files\Microsoft Asp.Net\Blinq - it has a read me which has details on how to run blinq.

-Kashif

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ChrisH — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:09:20 GMT

I guess this is all "Microsoft on Rails".

Will be interested to see where it goes.

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rogerj — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:56:26 GMT

There's a brief review of Blinq and links to a longer article about Blinq in "Visual Studio Magazine" at http://oakleafblog.blogspot.com/2006/06/generate-data-based-web-sites-with.html.

--rj

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Gigaframe.com has had this type of tool for along while and works much better. I'm a user and like it. It's well on very large databases.

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