OneNote and Journal

re: OneNote and Journal

Tejas Patel — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 19:44:00 GMT

Chris, you have just answered some of my questions that I had since I started using OneNote in betas. Thanks for explaining.

re: OneNote and Journal

travis — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 21:03:00 GMT

It's a little comforting to hear a Microsoft developer acknowlege what had been a major annoyance to me. I learned Journal before OneNote was released, and found it to be incredibly natural. OneNote's note taking and outlining features really got in the way of just plain old ink input. "Welcome to version 1.0." Hehe. I look forward to the next version of OneNote; hopefully it'll be good enough that I'll switch from Journal for ink.

re: OneNote and Journal

MartinJ — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 04:40:00 GMT

Speaking about using ink from a desktop... I have a large Wacom tablet. I thought it would be neat to just write on that. But, I have yet to get any Office application to recognize it as anything other than an image (the option to convert to text is always grayed out or ignored).

re: Optical Mice from Microsoft

Steve Loughran — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:16:00 GMT

Optical Mice? Microsoft Idea? Nope. HP, now Agilent. Look at the little agilent logo down by the optics, or for the patents held on the idea. The core Si, the Magellan chipset was originally done for a hand scanner; mice were an accident.

Where MS innovated was they were willing to bring it to market, bumping up the Actual Selling Price of mice, wherease the microcent counters in the PC companies originally thought that adding $4 to the Bill Of Materials would kill them against Dell, when in fact optical mice proved so cool they became a profitable upgrade.

You get to take credit for the wheel instead.

OneNote vs. Journal

SteelePrice.Net — Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:59:00 GMT

re: OneNote and Journal

Chris_Pratley — Wed, 04 Feb 2004 08:04:00 GMT

Steve - that's a nice tidbit - I didn't know that. I wasn't actually referring to the optical technology so much as the introduction of the mouse idea to drive the industry forward though.

OneNote vs. Journal

SteelePrice.Net — Wed, 04 Feb 2004 23:43:00 GMT

re: OneNote and Journal

Rob — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:28:00 GMT

Great article, that really helps!!

....Even Agilent was only really an evolution of the technology (maybe) Optical mice were "invented" perhaps in 1980 by Steve Kirsch (Mouse Systems) and Dick Lyon of Parc (whom I think is with MS now). Mouse Systems optical mice were in use on Sun workstations, and available for the Commodore Amiga in (at least) the early '90s. This kind of mouse required a special pad (thus the evolution/invention of Agilent). I read an article inferring that the one Dick had at Parc used the same concept as the Agilent ones.

But which one is good to store webpages offline !!

Neo — Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:15:00 GMT

Hi

I am a student and read a lot of articles online. I have been desperately looking for a software to take notes and store web-pages offline and edit them ( highlight areas, add comments and stuff ) so that I can read it later.

When I try to save web page in one-note, all the formatting is lost!!

Any good software out there that can help.

Any informaiton will be appreciated

thanks

Neo

mytbsinc@yahoo.com

re: OneNote and Journal

Chris_Pratley — Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:01:00 GMT

For now, you can use the built-in Journal application on a Tablet PC. You can print from the web browser to Journal, then write on what you see there. (it's a picture of the web page)

Alternatively you can select all on the web page, then paste in Word2003, and write on that. Word does a decent job on almost all web pages of keeping the layout, and support inking directly on the content. Also, the content is still text, so it is reusable.

Mac Word Notes View and OneNote

Buggin' My Life Away — Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:19:00 GMT

Mac Word Notes View and OneNote

Buggin' My Life Away — Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:19:00 GMT

Mac Word Notes View and OneNote

Buggin' My Life Away — Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:47:00 GMT

re: OneNote

Mica — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 10:34:00 GMT

I have been copying and pasting alot of tidbits from the web into OneNote this past week as part my research for a report I am working on.

I offer some constructive usability feedback.

I LOVE how OneNote automatically sites the sources. It would be great if it could compile my Bibliography for me, too. Are there any plans for a OneNote SDK, or maybe an add-on to VST for O ??

I HATE that there is no apparent option when copying from the net to [Paste With Format]. OneNote often will take 3 paragraps and combine it into a singular block of text. So, I manualy reformat the text. It messes up most bulleted/numbered outlines, also. So, I manualy reformat the text. These extra steps can be so time consuming I am considering to cease my OneNote use.

re: OneNote and Journal

Chris Pratley — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 18:02:00 GMT

Mica, thanks for the comments. Generally, OneNote does retain things like bulleted lists. If your text is inside a hidden HTML table, you may get unexpected results when pasting in OneNote since the first release doesn't have tables. Can you send me a link with a sample page you're having trouble with?
BTW, can you just check one thing? After you do a "paste", click the little smart tag button that pops up at the lower right of what you pasted, and check the format being used to paste. If it is plain text or "use destination", switch it to "keep source formatting", and set that to be the default.

re: OneNote and Journal

Mica — Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:38:00 GMT

Chris:

I just saw your reply. Here's a example...

[1] Go to the Microsoft.com Site Map http://www.microsoft.com/library/toolbar/3.0/sitemap/en-us.mspx

[2] Copy <CTRL C> the content of the page starting with "Microsoft.com Site Map" and ending with the bottom of the second colum "Worldwide Sites and Offices"

[3] Paste <CTRL V> on a new OneNote Note.

[4] Notice...
[A] 2 colums of text from the web pastes as one column in OneNote
[B] The Bullets appear below/above the items rathar than next to the item
[C] All text pastes to the same size 10 font but the title "Microsoft.com Site Map" is larger than size 10 font of the web

Let me know if you would like a screenshot, or my copy of the OneNote Note from this demo. I would be happy to email you with them.

-Mica ilovespam @ supermica . net

re: OneNote and Journal

Chris_Pratley — Tue, 08 Jun 2004 05:57:00 GMT

Mica, the page you pointed to is a great example of a page that uses a large number of hidden table cells to generate its appearance. Believe it or not, that is not a bulleted list. Try doing the Ctrl-V into Word, and make sure in Word that Table/Show gridlines is active (it will be called "Hide gridlines" when the gridlines are showing). You can see that every bullet is in its own table cell, and that the entire list is laid out with each little bit of content in its own cell.

This doesn't excuse the problem of course - we know we need to add tables. But the table problem is the main one when pasting from the web. Real bulleted lists come through. For the page you mentioned, I would use the Insert/Screen clipping feature to capture the layout.

re: OneNote and Journal

Mica — Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:39:00 GMT

How about the font sizing issue? This has frustrated me when different bits of text are formatted different sizes and OneNote doesn't care.

re: OneNote and Journal

MOA — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:59:00 GMT

$US200 for OneNote and Windows Journal is free?

re: OneNote and Journal

Chris_Pratley — Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:09:00 GMT

OneNote: USD$79 at Amazon after rebate.

OneNote: available on all PCs running Win2000 or WinXp; Journal - only on TabletPC.

OneNote: full featured Windows application; Journal: TabletPC demonstration applet
(OneNote is to Journal as Word is to Wordpad is what some say)

If you have used both applications you will know they are not equivalent in capabilities so it makes sense that they are not equivalent in price or distribution method.

re: OneNote and Journal

serg — Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:22:00 GMT

how about Mac? :)

OneNote--8 Things I don't like

Chris Kunicki — Mon, 27 Sep 2004 06:11:00 GMT

re: OneNote and Journal

FlohEinstein — Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:31:19 GMT

I found a software to convert everything, from this blog
http://www.onenotepowertoys.com/2006/01/07/journal-note-importer/

The original is here: http://www.mperfect.net/oneNoteToys