Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C++ language

Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C language

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Geoff Appleby — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:27:00 GMT

You've cut C++ but you support J#?

Don't get me wrong, I code in neither of those two languages, and it's a shame you had to cut it out. But does anyone actually use J#? That's a wasted language, I always thought (yes, i realise i sound like an opinionated a-hole :) But I would have put C++ priority over J#, and and cut J# to have more time to work on C++.

Just my opnion :)

re: Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C++ language

RGab — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:42:00 GMT

well, supporting J# is almost the same as supporting C#. C++ has different problems, it is a lot more complex and allows more complex architectures that are probably a lot harder to visualize and keep in synch. Anyway, I won't miss it but it would've been probably nice to support it.

Btw, was unmanged C++ ever planned to support or just managed c++?

re: Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C++ language

John Stallo — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:54:00 GMT

RGab is spot on - in supporting C# and VB, J# sort of almost came for free.

To answer your question, RGab, we had planned on supporting both native and managed C++ features.

re: Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C++ language

Apolon — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:08:00 GMT

Bummer.

Given the complexity of C++ reverse engineering compared to the simpler/cleaner languages such as C#, VB.NET and J# this is understandable. I hope support for C++ in the class designer is added as some form of service pack to VS.NET 2005 in the future (and not in VS.NET 2007, 2008 or whatever the next version will be).

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Christian Mogensen — Sat, 05 Mar 2005 05:42:00 GMT

Bummer - this means we won't be using CD, and sticking with Rational XDE instead then.

We were really looking forward to getting a nice, easy-to-use design surface for our C++ code.

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Clay — Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:04:00 GMT

I think that this is very unfornate. In dev shops where you have a mix of languages such as C++, C# and VB you will see a delay in adoption of your new tools as a standard. Larger groups like to standerdize on one tool set. In addtion if you are like us and are in the process of developing mixed systems (C++/ATL legacy with C# addtions) things get muddled. I guess we will need to revisit IBM’s Rational XDE for the near term. I really liked what had been done so far it’s just too bad we will have to wait another couple of years. To be honest I would rather have some limited capablities in regards to C++ rather than nothing at all.

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Prashanth — Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:32:00 GMT

Yesterday I was at an MSDN event and saw a demo of the Class Designer. My first question was "Is C++ and Native code supported?". The presenter was not sure and asked me to check MSDN. Guess I dont have to.

We were looking forward to replace the Rational Suite. Guess that wont happen soon.

RE: Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C++ language

clintmiller@beckgroup.com (Clint Miller) — Sat, 05 Mar 2005 10:35:00 GMT

This is really sad to hear. I hope that the VSCD team will reconsider this decision. Lots of shops are mixed language, mine included.

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re: Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C++ language

jm dessaintes — Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:20:00 GMT

Very, very, very sad...

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Jason Haley — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 18:27:00 GMT

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re: Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C++ language

TommySwede — Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:38:00 GMT

A couple of years ago, Microsoft would NOT have released a new major version of Visual Studio without proper support for C++.
Now, this is the first clear indication that C++ is not #1 at Microsoft anymore. No matter what Herb Sutter and other says...
You know, it is not what you say but what you do that counts.

re: Visual Studio 2005 Class Designer will not support the C++ language

Rakesh Namineni — Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:46:00 GMT

The VC team made a very sincere effort to support our (Class Designer Team) requirements. Their devs worked hard with us. But due to unforseen events they were in a state where they had to reshuffle resources and make some hard decisions to deliver a solid robust VC product. It is a hard decision but from customers point of view that team is doing everything in their possible limits to make C++ experience in VS grand.

There is a good synergy of tools among different languages in VS and there is room to improve as well. We will strive hard to close the gap.

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Bill Dunlap — Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:20:00 GMT

Hi guys. I'm the product manager for Visual C++ and would like to address this as well. VC++ is absolutely essential to MS and our goal is - and always has been - to provide a first class development experience for our customers. It sucks when a feature has to be cut, but anyone who writes software for a living has had to make these types of decisions. Quality is a feature...and shipping is a feature. VB, C#, and J# essentially came as a package while C++ is a bigger beast. We didn't make it into the timeframe this cycle, but we will for the next one.

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A C++ Developer — Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:44:00 GMT

Bill Dunlap wrote:
> We didn't make it into the timeframe this cycle, but we will for the next one.

In other words: we will force you to upgrade (and pay!) twice.

I am almost as thrilled about this decision as I was about the omission of call-graph and caller-graph from VS 7 and 7.1

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Unsatisfied Customer — Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:20:00 GMT

That means we're looking forward to the next release of Borland's C++ Builder

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HenrikV — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:59:00 GMT

Since C++ is a standard, microsofts goal is to move development to proprietary languages like VB, C# etc.

I really like VC++ 2003 compiler! Is there *any* reason to upgrade? I'd rather spend money on some Mac hardware and start writing a new UI for my apps.

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Stefán Jökull — Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:30:00 GMT

HenrikV:

I thought C# was a standard too ;)

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Brent Newbury — Fri, 01 Apr 2005 08:40:00 GMT

Like people are saying; it's sucks when highly anticipated features have to be cut. But, they are cut for a reason.

Right now people are bummed out because they don't know what's going to happen from now on. Will Microsoft ever impliment Class Designer for VC++? Will it be in the next version (which I have to pay extra)?

I understand that to have a product ship on time you have to have tradeoffs (can I have the tradeoff triangle sounding in the distance?). What I would suggest is that Microsoft ship Visual Studio 2005 without VC++ Class Designer support and later, when the feature is complete, release it as a free upgrade to Visual Studio with a "sorry it's late, but it's finally here" line.

Why does Microsoft treat C as a second class citizen?

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