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Multiple IEs on one machine

With the recent release of a preview of IE7 beta 2, there's been another slew of demands for "standalone IE", and much posturing on both sides about whether Microsoft can/should provide this.

I said to Molly Holzschlag of the Web Standards Project back in November 2005 that the "...best way of testing IE with multiple installs is using Virtual PC."  That is still the case.  I discussed a little bit in that interview how .local works, and why it is an unsupported scenario.  I also said we've known about the .local trick for a long time - even use it occasionally internally, but that we know exactly what the effects are.  We are not to my knowledge disabling this in any way in IE7, but that I can't guarantee it will work in the future either, and it may not have appropriate behavior anyway (because you're running "most" of IE6, or "most" of IE7). 

In short, I'm not telling you the ONLY way of testing multiple IEs on one machine is VPC.  It's the BEST way.  We are not going to officially support using .local to run multiple IEs on one machine, because it is potentially unstable.  IE is a collection of DLLs that are designed to work as parts of the operating system, and if you have a mismatched set it may cause problems.  As far as I personally am concerned, you can use this to test HTML rendering and switching out MSHTML.DLL, and "most" of the time it will work - but it's not the same as having a full set of new IE system DLLs installed.

Published Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:32 AM by cwilso

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Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:11 PM by webecho

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

Hi Chris
Could you point me in the right direction to find out more about this .local setup please.

I have recently installed IE7 beta, great but now i can't test my websites in IE 6 and, being honest, I'm not about to spend loads of cash on Virtual PC just to run IE 6

So far IE 7 seems to render exactly as FF 1.5 does so maybe it's off with 7 and back on with 6


Cheers

webecho
Monday, February 06, 2006 3:27 PM by ieblog

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

You can find more information about it at a number of places - http://labs.insert-title.com/labs/Multiple-IEs-in-Windows_article795.aspx is a good place to start.
Friday, March 03, 2006 3:28 PM by SympleByte

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Monday, March 27, 2006 10:24 PM by Marli

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

Ok, lets just put this in perspective. IE is a _web browser_. Yes it is. It's a stinking, bloody web browser.

And you want me to run multiple virtual machines via an expensive software product just so I can test my web sites in multiple versions of this web browser?

Explain to me how this makes any rational sense at all.

I am a software engineer, so I understand the (possible) technical implications of a standalone IE, but here's the thing: I am also a web developer, and I am also a user. And user's *don't* care about technical details. Give us what we want.

If your web browser is too broken to allow multiple versions on the same OS, you have much bigger problems than you think.
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:44 PM by Ben Buchanan

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

No doubt it is the best way to test multiple IEs... but seriously, it's not a cheap bit of software (especially in a market of free browsers). Although it's still cheaper than buying a Mac Mini just to test Mac browsers ;)

Is there any chance MS would ever release a free, packaged install of VPC+IE? As in, a package which will not run any other app - so MS wouldn't be giving away VPC - but it will load up different IEs?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:19 PM by IEBlog

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:03 PM by Thomas Aylott

# How I Use IE6, IE7, Firefox & Safari on the Same Machine Simultaneously

Howdy.

I have IE6 & IE7 beta2 running side by side on my testing PC.

I'm a Mac person, so I also have Safari, WebKit Nightly, OmniWeb, Opera 9, Shiira, etc...

I have a PowerPC Mac, so I use Remote Desktop to connect to a barebones PC. Eventually i'll get an Intel mac and Parallels Desktop so I can use a single machine.

http://subtlegradient.com/articles/2006/05/10/use-ie6-ie7-firefox-safari-on-the-same-machine-simultaneously

I'm going to try and install BETA3 now.
Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:38 PM by Peter Uchytil

# Second VPC+IE

I second the recommendation of Ben Buchanan above. Make a VPC+IE package that allows for testing multiple IEs. It would be great if all users would upgrade en masse when new browsers are available, but it just ain't gonna happen. As a developer I really need a way to run IE6 and IE7 at the same time. VPC sounds like a good deal, but is on the spendy side just to be able to test a browser.
Friday, June 30, 2006 3:44 AM by deedee.brainstream.net

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 11:38 AM by Dana

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

I can't believe that you seriously expect developers to shell out $$$ for Virtual PC (which has it's own problems) simply to test their web sites in different versions of browsers -- one of them a BETA!!  It is just a web browser and should be separated from the OS.  It is ridiculous that IE is so tied to Windows that you can't uninstall it or have different versions running side-by-side.
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Friday, October 06, 2006 6:30 AM by Dan Caseley

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

On the plus side, MS Virtual PC is now *free*. Test away!

Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:39 PM by Steve

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

VPC is free, but you have to buy a new copy of Windows if you bought from an OEM like HP, since their copy of windows only installs on its hardware (which it can not detect on VPC). So you still have to spend $300 to use IE6.

Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:26 PM by Chris

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

Friday, November 17, 2006 4:40 AM by Ronny

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

So, I have to test via VPC. Ok. That's one more SW installation on my box. It is also one extra OS license. Another "box" to nurse...

But, I am a developer and I am using MS Visual Studio for my development. I am actively developing new sites, not only doing regression testing of old sites. Meaning that line-by-line debugging is something that I do a lot when developing client-side scripts. So, if I want to debug my scripts I need to install MS Visual Studio too on the VPC. Great. Luckily the VS Express edition is free, but still needs install and nurturing. Because now I need to export my source to be able to use the same project files, or maybe create some elaborate sharing scheme between the dev-box and the VPC... Sigh... This whole process really starts annoying me. I need to have a duplicate WinXP and development setup just to test my sites in IE6?

And, what about those of us who also must support IE5.5 and IE5. Heck, I know there are people who even have to support IE 4.01! What about them?

There are people who (unofficially) has indeed been able to create a standalone package for IE3,4,5,5.5 and 6. This makes me wonder why Microsoft ignores the developers' needs? With MS's resources I can't believe it is such a big problem to create standalone versions of IE. I have hesitated using the "unofficial" solution, but I now feel almost forced too. Yes, the unofficial solution isn't perfect (although as far as I know, only cookies seems to still be a problem with the standalone IE6 version). But - really, VPC with it's additional setup is far from a perfect solution too!

Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:55 PM by IEBlog

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Monday, December 04, 2006 7:05 AM by Robbie Wareham

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

I am right in assuming that I can's install IE7 on the Virtual PC?  I really need IE6 to be on my main machine and IE7 on the VPC. However, when upgrading to IE7 on the VPC, it complains that it is not a genuine version of Windows.

Am I stuck using IE7 on the main machine and IE6 on the VPC?

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Sunday, December 24, 2006 3:38 AM by Andrew

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

I seriously don't believe this!

The only reason these people want two versions of IE on their computer is so they can compensate for the mistakes of one [or both] of them! Web developers and designers everywhere are sick of IE and it's non-compliance, but need to design around it because it seems to be the most widely used browser.

So you want us to install another microsoft product on our computer so we can iron out the faults in the first one??

Lunacy!

Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:08 PM by Joe Public aka the opinion of the world

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The same problems have existed since MS started writing software.  Continue patching bad software and releasing it as 'updated' and 'upgraded'.  The problem is, we continue to buy it.  

Switch to linux, or quit complaining.  Do something, or expect the same crappy software from here on in.  Open source is the only way to go.  Let the users develop/test the software, let the oem ppl make it better, everyone is happy.  Novell is on the rise, look at RedHat, it's making huge leaps.  MS market share is at it's lowest since it's inception, and dwindling by the day.

If anyone fed up with the BS that MS is selling, just research for 1 day, how easy it is to switch to Linux, running OpenOffice and Firefox, they'll never go back.

For beginners, go with Ubuntu

Novices, RedHat or SuSe 10.1

Experts, gentoo or debian

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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:28 AM by jou

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

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Monday, May 14, 2007 11:33 PM by Warren Tiedetke

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:09 AM by opensource

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

i will try it, bau i have problems :(

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:05 AM by NBA

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Am I stuck using IE7 on the main machine and IE6 on the VPC?

Friday, January 11, 2008 6:46 AM by bilgi yarışması

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

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Saturday, January 26, 2008 12:30 PM by coydecoy

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

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No problem.  This is the solution for testers.

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Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:13 PM by Lisa Kilpatrick/Datawatch Corporation

# re: Multiple IEs on one machine

Hi Chris: Can you tell me if it is possible to run both Safari or Firefox on the same machine as IE 6?

Any assistance you could provide would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Lisa Kilpatrick

Datawatch

lisa_kilpatrick@datawatch.com

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